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Yuval Noah Harari

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The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

The CDOs were invented by a tiny number of investment wizards and ingenious mathematicians.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

Almost nobody understood them, certainly not the politicians who are supposed to regulate them.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

For a few years, everything seems wonderful.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

People were making billions of dollars because of these CDOs.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

And then the system crashed.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

Now, it is very likely that we will see the same thing with AIs on a much larger scale.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

The same way that we've already seen AI invent new ways to play chess, they will invent new ways to invest, which may be much better than what we can come up with.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

So they will gain more and more power in the financial system.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

And it will become so complicated that the number of people who understand finance will go down to zero.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

And what does it mean for democracy or also for dictatorship when nobody, not the president of the US, not the president of China, not the president of Russia, not the chiefs of the central banks, no human being understands finance anymore?

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

This will be a very big challenge in the coming decades.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

That's absolutely true.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

The only caveat is that until now, humans were always a kind of limit on markets, on nations, on the financial system.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

Ultimately, you needed humans to understand something to make the decisions because nothing else could make the decision.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

So AI allows all these structures that we've built for thousands of years and became more and more complex.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

AI now allows them potentially to cut the connection to humanity and go on a trajectory which is far beyond what the human mind is capable of understanding.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

It even happens in a way with language itself.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

The most important inventions or creation of humanity ever, until now, was language.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

Because it's the basis for everything.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

Mythology, finance, nations, religions, they are ultimately based on language.