Yvonne Sampson

It's usually the support staff, the bloke who runs the oranges out.

They're the gold.

They've got the gold.

They don't mind a bit of a chat.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, the gear guy, like, hey, what's up?

Oh, yeah, no, that's interesting.

Yeah, okay.

And it was really good to sort of get across the, you know, the ecosystem of rugby league and how it all works.

And so I was really appreciative of those years that I spent in the newsroom and it honed my news sense.

So when you do have a player, you know, and you've got to try and you've got, you know, 30 seconds to work out what you're going to say to them,

Um, yeah, I feel like I've read enough through the week or I've listened to enough through the week or I've, you know, Sorry about the, uh, we've got a few bar flies.

Um, uh, yeah, dug down deep enough that you can go, okay, well, this is what he said last week.

Let's push on with that.

Or if you've got a few stats in front of you.

So yeah, the, the messy pages and to answer your original question, I write everything out.

I was trying to write everything out because I can't trust myself.

Because I think when players, especially when they're freshly retired and they'll jump on the set and they'll look at my notes and they'll go, oh, and then they'll think that they have to write something.

No, it's only because I feel like if I crash the bus, if I drive us off a cliff, everyone's going down with me.

So I can't afford to sort of get the wobbles.