Zac Smith

Do you see the little line between my professional career doing internet infrastructure that is absolutely invisible and nobody realizes it's there unless it's not there? And then everybody's like, wait, it's not working anymore.

Do you see the little line between my professional career doing internet infrastructure that is absolutely invisible and nobody realizes it's there unless it's not there? And then everybody's like, wait, it's not working anymore.

I like a supporting role in my life.

I like a supporting role in my life.

We have a few, but not a lot. There's not a lot of double bass solos. But it's OK. I don't mind. I like playing in the section. Frankly, what's most exciting for me is playing in an orchestra with like 80 or 90 other people, because it's this auditory, very physical representation of what a good organization feels like.

We have a few, but not a lot. There's not a lot of double bass solos. But it's OK. I don't mind. I like playing in the section. Frankly, what's most exciting for me is playing in an orchestra with like 80 or 90 other people, because it's this auditory, very physical representation of what a good organization feels like.

because you have 50, 60, 70 people of varying backgrounds and things and whatever, all getting together, doing something. And you can tell when it works really well and they know how to work together, which is so much harder when you're building companies or working in organizations. The feedback loop is so much slower than it is. So I like it, being in a group. I don't need to be out in front.

because you have 50, 60, 70 people of varying backgrounds and things and whatever, all getting together, doing something. And you can tell when it works really well and they know how to work together, which is so much harder when you're building companies or working in organizations. The feedback loop is so much slower than it is. So I like it, being in a group. I don't need to be out in front.

Yeah, it's pretty obvious.

Yeah, it's pretty obvious.

I didn't see it.

I didn't see it.

Yeah. Was that the one that was about the Juilliard school thingamajigger? I know there was one. Somebody said I should see it.

Yeah. Was that the one that was about the Juilliard school thingamajigger? I know there was one. Somebody said I should see it.

Well, the intensity that you have to have to be in any high performing thing, whether it's like, I'm sure we started off talking about the Jets or something like, man, you know, like any high performing sports or music or, you know, I'm sure other intense engineering organizations or business or sales teams, like it can get, you know, people when they all want the best and they have a lot of A players, you know, all shooting for the top, right?

Well, the intensity that you have to have to be in any high performing thing, whether it's like, I'm sure we started off talking about the Jets or something like, man, you know, like any high performing sports or music or, you know, I'm sure other intense engineering organizations or business or sales teams, like it can get, you know, people when they all want the best and they have a lot of A players, you know, all shooting for the top, right?

Yeah. can be pretty intense sometimes. So there was several uncomfortable moments I had when I was at school, but I, you know, you develop thick skin as an artist because you basically spend most of your time paying people or seeking out ways to get criticism.

Yeah. can be pretty intense sometimes. So there was several uncomfortable moments I had when I was at school, but I, you know, you develop thick skin as an artist because you basically spend most of your time paying people or seeking out ways to get criticism.

Right. Which is like for people to tear you down and tell you, you don't go to a, a lesson with your teacher for them to tell you about all the things that you're doing. Well, You want them to help you be better, which requires criticism. Right.

Right. Which is like for people to tear you down and tell you, you don't go to a, a lesson with your teacher for them to tell you about all the things that you're doing. Well, You want them to help you be better, which requires criticism. Right.