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True Crime Vault: Toxic Love

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Jacob's attorney says it would be a, quote, quantum leap to believe that Jacob wanted dead the ex-girlfriend he once so loved.

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True Crime Vault: Toxic Love

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She then characterized his continuing efforts to contact her as a man who was desperate, and she said certainly she was beyond frightened.

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True Crime Vault: Toxic Love

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He said the entire time in the back of his mind were thoughts of his young daughter.

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True Crime Vault: Toxic Love

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Clearly the strongest evidence against Leon Jacob were his own words.

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True Crime Vault: Toxic Love

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I think that spoke volumes in this case. All rise for the jury.

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True Crime Vault: Toxic Love

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You did not see a physical outward change in emotion. You may be seated. On his face or in his body.

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True Crime Vault: Toxic Love

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That was Zach's story. He said that he was never going to go through with the murders.

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And then the other thing is they just do not like the long-term fiscal picture of the US. One other chart we should bring up is interest on the national debt. What you can see here is that it has gone absolutely parabolic in the last couple of years. Our interest on the debt is something like 1.3, 1.4 trillion a year. 1.3, 5 trillion run rate. Yep.

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And it's something like 20 to 25% of federal revenue now is going to debt service. And this continues to increase. Now, I think there was an expectation that we'd be able to get this line to go back down once we had rate cuts, right?

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Because if inflation is licked and the Fed can lower interest rates again, and we can get back to a 2% 10-year bond, which is where we were a few years ago, then all of a sudden that national debt service becomes a little bit more reasonable, right? I mean, you could service that debt at half the cost. But now it looks like that may not happen.

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So just to wrap this up, I just think that the market doesn't like these fundamentals of the US fiscal picture. You've got rapidly increasing debt service costs. You've got an inflation picture that is murky and may not be going away. And the bond markets are starting to price in higher interest rates for longer. And this is why Paul Tudor Jones is saying all roads lead to inflation.

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And this is why Druckenmiller is shorting US treasuries.

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This is like when he stole the Pappy Van Winkle from my plane. Remember that?

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Yeah, look, I think that believing you're going to be an influencer is like believing that you're going to be like a rock star or movie actor or something like that.

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It's like a one in a million shot. It's just not a great thing to want to design your career around because it's just very unlikely to happen. So I think you're better off finding a career that you're passionate about, but where you're actually adding value. The world doesn't need 50 something percent of the...

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population become influencers that's kind of crazy it reminds me of a line from fight club where tyler durden says we've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars but we won't and we're slowly learning that fact and we're very very pissed off and that was gen x that was china yeah so yeah that was they're headed for a uh a fight club like realization about this sax how do you advise a young person on

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So I think it's just important to recognize that if we ourselves are influencers, the reason why we're not being hypocritical is that none of us here, with the possible exception of J-Cal, ever set out to be influencers, right? Yeah. We did something different. We actually had a career and we did something interesting. And then as a result of that, maybe people want to listen to our pod.

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He thinks that anything that's not bolted down is basically just like a gift. It's like a freebie.

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The idea that you can just go be an influencer without having actually done anything interesting. What's your credential for that? So what I would advise is just people should go do something productive. And then if it leads to other people... wanting to hear from them, then that that's good.

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But setting out to be someone that other people should listen to without having any experience or having done anything productive in your life, it's like, why should we listen to you?

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Yeah, I think that's a great point. You kind of have to mentally burn the boats when you do a startup.

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Just on the question of how do you reposition? So first of all, the easy one to avoid is treasuries, right? I mean, do you really want to accept a 4.2% yield for 10 years to own a US bond? And with the looming inflation that is still out there, or the looming debt crisis that might be out there. So that's probably the easy one.

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I think the hard one is around equities because equities are at an all-time high. Part of the reason why they're at an all-time high is because the Fed telegraphed that we'd have big rate cuts this year. Remember, at the beginning of this year, they said there would be seven rate cuts. Those expectations have kept coming down.

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I think we had one, I guess we had a double rate cut last month and we were supposed to have one more 50-bit rate cut this year. I have to wonder if that's still going to happen. And more to the point, if you believe Druckenmiller and Paul Tudor Jones, we might be in for a extended period of higher interest rates for longer. And that will be bad for equities.

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Equities normally are inflation protected in the sense that those companies can just raise prices over time and keep up with inflation. And so equities are generally a pretty good thing to own in the face of inflation. But if we're in for a period of high interest rates longer than anyone thinks, that's going to be bad for equities.

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The big difference between a bond and a stock is that the bond provides you with, like you said, fixed income payments, and those would be horribly debased if you have high inflation. A stock gives you earnings and a company can always raise its prices. And so in theory, it should be hedged against inflation.

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But both a stock and a bond are similar in the sense that they're both hurt badly by rising interest rates, right? Because the discount rate is higher. So this is where I'm just not sure about equities is if we do head into a new regime of higher rates longer, does that... hurt equities, even though equities normally are pretty good inflation hedge. So I just don't know the answer to that.

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I do think we're headed for a period of constraints. I think that since 2008, we basically were living in a sort of a consequence-free environment where The Fed could keep interest rates at or near zero. The federal government could spend as much as it wanted. We sort of normalized emergency conditions.

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First, we had trillion-dollar deficits as a result of the 2008 GFC, and then those got normalized. Then we had $2 trillion deficits as a result of COVID, and those got normalized. And then the Fed was also doing QE, which means that it's buying the U.S. government's own bonds, thereby propping up U.S. bonds and the bond market.

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yeah, keeping interest rates lower than they otherwise would need to be to attract those bondholders. So for about 15 years, we kind of normalized emergency conditions and consequence-free spending by the US government. I think now we may be entering an era of consequences.

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And what that means is that you can't push on one aspect of the federal government's balance sheet without giving up on something else. So in other words, if you're going to allow higher inflation, basically monetizing the debt, the bond markets are going to make the government pay higher interest rates on its debt, right? Because they're not dumb.

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So we're going to be in a world of higher interest rates, which means that equities get clobbered, real estate gets clobbered, the value of people's homes gets clobbered. So there's real consequences from that. Or you can tackle inflation, which means that the Fed's going to have to tighten the

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But then I think what that means is the federal government's going to have to get religion around spending. They're not just going to be able to spend all of this money.

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To just go back to your definition of GDP, it's true that if you cut government, that might cut GDP because GDP includes government spending.

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However, one could argue that although technically that is how the definitions work, that by cutting government, you actually unlock resources that could be used by the private sector and that ultimately it would lead to more efficiency but also stimulate the private sector. And I think that argument is particularly true when you've got an economy running at full employment.

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Really excited, yeah. All right, so I have a question.

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So, you know, if we had lots of unemployment, then cutting all these government workers would be very painful. But if you've got an economy that's doing quite well and there's a lot of job creation going on, then it's a good time to actually cut government because the private sector can reabsorb these people.

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We should use the fact that we still have that, we have a good employment picture, to make these painful cuts now as opposed to waiting until it would be far more difficult.

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Is our attendance required at this thing?

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All the data is basically pointing one direction, which is a Trump victory. And by data, I mean the polling, I mean the prediction markets, and then the early voting numbers. So if you look at the polls, there were two new polls by mainstream media. One, the Wall Street Journal yesterday said that Trump was up three nationally.

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And I think CNBC had a poll this morning saying that Trump was up two nationally. That's very good because- That's the popular vote. That's the popular vote. So if Trump is winning the popular vote, it's a landslide.

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I have no desire to participate in this.

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Most prognosticators say that because Republicans have a slight electoral college advantage, that Harris would need to win the popular vote by more than 2% to have a chance at winning the electoral college. So if Trump is winning the popular vote, then it's a landslide.

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Second area is if you look at the state by state polling, Trump has been advancing pretty much in every battleground state for the last couple of weeks. If you use RCP, Trump is now ahead slightly in every battleground state and the momentum is all towards Trump. And then the final data point is around early voting in states where they have this early voting and put out the numbers.

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The Republicans are tracking well ahead of where they were in 2020. Now, there's still a question of You know, does this mean that Republicans are just shifting their votes to voting earlier and then they'll do less well on Election Day? There's always that chance. But right now, if you're a Republican, it's what you want to see.

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And if you're a Democrat, it's definitely not what you you want to see.

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I thought I was signing up for a podcast. I don't know why I need to do all these events.

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Sorry, I forgot to mention prediction markets. Prediction markets have moved very, very sharply in favor of Trump. It's almost two-thirds, one-third now. in favor of Trump. So there's been a huge move among bettors that Trump is going to win.

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Yeah, PolyMarket and then CalShe as well.

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I mean, look, I'm not going to try and possibly compare that to what the Democrats are saying right now, which is that Trump is literally Hitler. They're calling him a fascist. She called him a fascist.

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I think, unfortunately, the mainstream media is responsible for giving roughly half the country a psychosis about Trump because they are pushing out this rhetoric nonstop that he's a fascist, that he's Hitler. They keep putting out all these fake stories, and they are basically training people or indoctrinating them that he's a slight threat to democracy.

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I was having dinner last night with someone who's a Democrat who pretty much gets all their information from mainstream media, and she's terrified of this. It's just not who Donald Trump is. It's ridiculous hyperbole. But if you're locked in that media ecosystem, that's all you hear. You really are frightened by this.

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So I think that the media, the media's irresponsibility, the way that they don't report honestly and that they gin up these threats has really terrified half the country.

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Well, look, if you're losing your power of lying, I mean, that's like pretty par for the course. What's so horrible about that? I mean, you could make the argument that she's lied about a lot of things.

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As Anderson Cooper interrogated her quite well just yesterday on that town hall, he pointed out that she had said 50 times that Trump's wall was a stupid idea, and now she appears to be in favor of it. So I think that accusing your opponent of lying is pretty par for the course for a politician. What's not par for the course is saying that your opponent is literally Hitler and a fascist.

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For those of you listening. I'm happy seeing you guys through Zoom. You know, we can minimize the impersonal stuff.

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That's just going to a whole different level of rhetoric.

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Okay. I'm actually pretty optimistic because I actually don't think it's going to be that close. I mean, right now it's looking like Maybe landslide's too strong a word, but a solid victory for Trump. That's what the polls are showing. That's what the prediction markets are showing. That's what the early voting is showing.

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And if you look at all the other data points right now, it's showing Trump winning pretty handily. The other data point that we haven't talked about is just how these campaigns are acting in the final stretch. If you look at the Trump campaign, it's pretty much steady as she goes. You look at the Kamala campaign, and they're in this throwing spaghetti against the wall mode. They're back to

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kind of the dark Brandon type messaging, where the reason to vote for us is Trump's a fascist. This is very different than their messaging when they made the switcheroo from Biden to Kamala, right? When they first made that switch, they said, okay, let's get away from this dark Brandon threat to democracy type messaging. It doesn't seem to be working.

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Let's emphasize Kamala Harris as a change agent, as a transformational candidate, as a candidate of joy and positive vibes. And they did get a big bounce in the polls because of that. The problem is that over the last couple of months, that sort of bounce in the polls has worn off as Harris has not been able to explain what she would change.

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She keeps getting asked in all these interviews, what would you do differently than Joe Biden? Anderson Cooper just asked her that yesterday for like the 19th time. And she still does not have an answer to that question. And so the problem she has is that the sort of veneer they gave her as this change agent has kind of worn off. And she's seen as a continuation of Biden.

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And the public does not want a continuation of Biden. And so now it feels like they're frantically trying to figure out how to reposition their back to the to the anti-Trump sort of hysterical messaging, which didn't work. It wasn't working three months ago when they made the switcheroo.

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So I tend to think that if you look at the behavior of these campaigns, it's pretty easy to see which one feels confident and which one is in a panic.

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I mean, that's possible. I'm going to tell him not to do anything that nice, though, for J-Cal.

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Just to add... You know, since Jake, how you're referencing an episode that I participated in and said some things. I mean, look, I think that the goal of the mainstream media has been to try and keep us in the heat of that moment for four years. I mean, if you've watched MSNBC for the last four years, it's like J6 is occurring every single day. I mean, this is all that they talk about.

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But I think, like Jamal said, we have learned a lot of things since that day. I didn't know, for example, that Twitter had censored President Trump's tweets telling all of these people to go home, that basically he said to protest peacefully. And then when they rioted, that he actually published tweets to try and tell them to go home. So that was new information.

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And when that came out, remember at the beginning of the whole primary cycle, Trump did that town hall on CNN with Caitlin Collins, where he dramatically pulled the piece of paper out of his pocket with the tweets and started reading them. That was a lot of new information for people. And I think that gave him a different picture.

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And then I think one other point that I think is important is that imagine if the press had tried to keep us in the heat of the moment. of the summer of 2020 riots, the George Floyd riots, then we'd have a very different perception of which party was in favor of riots. Because Tim Walz was the governor of Minnesota when those riots occurred. He did not want to send in the National Guard.

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Trump did. And then Kamala Harris tried to raise money for bail for an organization that was bailing out some of these protesters and rioters out of prison. So if the media was so inclined, they could portray Kamala Harris and Tim Walz as the party of the riots of the summer of 2020.

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I think at the end of the day that both those takes are propagandistic, and they happened four years ago, and it's certainly... a piece of information that voters can take into account, but it's only one piece of information. And there's a whole lot of other issues and policies in this election. And I think at this point, everything that happened four years ago is kind of priced into the stock.

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And what voters want to know about now is, What would you do on the issues? What would you do about immigration? What would you do about inflation? What would you do about the economy? And when you look at the polling on those issues that voters say matter to them, Trump has a decisive advantage. And Kamala Harris cannot explain what she would do differently than Joe Biden.

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Totally. That is throwing her under the bus. But it's also just preserving his own credibility because it's hard to look.

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I think I think in one important way, Kamala Harris has been set up to fail here because on the one hand, she wants to distance herself from Joe Biden's record. But on the other hand, she won't say what she would do differently. So she's in this kind of like never, never land this limbo. Yeah, that's right.

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They should have run a primary for sure. I think they could have had a better candidate. But also, I think to go back to Freeberg's question, this is a little bit of a premortem. What should they have done differently? I think you either defend Joe Biden's record or say what you would do differently. You can't be in this limbo state.

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And, you know, Joe Biden's got to be in the White House there gritting his teeth. wanting to get out on the campaign trail and defending his record. Because I think Joe Biden thinks he has a good record. And there are things you could say in favor of that record. I mean, I personally don't think it's great. But you could talk about the full employment picture.

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You could talk about the fact that, yes, we had 9% inflation, but now it's down to 3%. I mean, there are things you could say. Equity markets. Equity markets are at an all-time high. I mean, he signed a lot of legislation that he obviously believed in. So the Democrats do have a record to run on.

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It's not a record that I personally believe in, but it's certainly one that I think you could make an effort to defend. And I think Biden, if he was the candidate, would be defending that record.

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And it's very awkward to have a candidate who was part of this administration who will not defend that record, who distanced herself from that record, but won't really say with any detail or conviction what she would do differently. That is just a losing proposition. And I think Anderson Cooper exposed it more than Brett Baer last night because Anderson Cooper had the time.

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Brett Baer only had 26 minutes and Brett Baer was seen as adversarial, whereas Anderson Cooper is fundamentally a friendly interviewer. And when she can't answer those questions for Anderson Cooper, that's when you know you're done.

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I've never even heard of that.

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Well, it's hard to be up 20 points when the entire mainstream media is against you. There's only reporting positive things about the other candidates, only reporting negative things about you, and you have a three to one money disadvantage. One thing you could say for Kamala Harris is she has been a good fundraiser. There's plenty of billionaires who are funding her campaign.

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They literally have three times more money than the Trump campaign. And even in California, which is a safe state for them, you're seeing Kamala campaign ads everywhere. That just tells you they're so flush with cash that they can afford to spread the money around even in California. So look, the reality is that Trump has the entire establishment against him.

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And I think for him to be ahead in the polls and the prediction markets and the early voting fairly decisively is an extraordinary achievement. I think he's probably the only candidate who could have done that. In any event, and I do think, J. Cal, that Kamala has tried to make some of the arguments that you just said, not very crisply, but she's trying to walk back on the border.

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The problem is they have no credibility on that because the Democrats for the last eight years have fought Trump on the border wall. It's his signature issue. And if you don't think Republicans should be believed on abortion, there's absolutely no reason to believe Democrats on the border. They fought Trump's wall.

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I think that's bad parts of it all for scrap metal. She was supposed to be the border czar, didn't even visit the border, which shows that she never thought it was important. Now she wants to pretend that she's Trump on the border. Public's not buying it.

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Well, they just waited way too late. I mean, there's no question that last month they radically pivoted their media strategy. She became the candidate roughly three months ago. For the first two months, they didn't let her do any press interviews. Then they realized that their internals were bad, they're behind in the polls. So now they're having her go out and do a lot of media.

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And like I said, a couple of weeks ago, that started to create a doom loop because she is not a great media performer. So her polls started getting even worse. So then they got to put her out on more media

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I'll give you credit. If the Kamala campaign were a startup, we'd be saying it's in a death spiral right now.

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I'm a New York State guy. Well done.

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I'm just not an expert on Starbucks. I mean, I do like their product, but...

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I just get an Americano with a splash of oat milk.

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I'm going to find out in a couple of weeks. I'll let you know. Don't put that stuff in your body, David. I bet they do.

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I'm living a great life right now. Next time. He's stealing anything that's not nailed down.

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Something simple is great. Is that the cashmere sweater with the rhino horn buttons?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

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881.36

Well, I think as you heard right there, the key line that Paul Tudor Jones said was all roads lead to inflation. I mean, that's what's basically happening right now is that the market is afraid that inflation is not whipped and is going to resurface and the Fed may have to pivot from the pivot and raise interest rates. That's why he doesn't want to own any treasuries.

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Separately, another financial legend, Stan Druckenmiller, gave an interview where he has something like a 20% short position, meaning 20% of his holdings are short US Treasuries right now. So he's betting that there are long-term inflation pressures and that rates are going to have to rise.

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And you're seeing, again, that since the Fed cut rates on September 18th by 50 basis points, that the 10-year T-bills yield has risen by 60 basis points. So I think my interpretation is that this is less about the election and more about the markets not liking the Fed's rate cut on September 18th. I think that in hindsight, it was too big.

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We discussed it on the show, and I pointed out that the 50 base point cut was contradictory in the sense that The only two times in recent history where the Fed began a rate cutting cycle with a 50 basis point cut was in 2001 and 2008, which were on the verge of pretty big recessions. And so the Fed felt like it needed to cut dramatically. in order to help stave off those recessions.

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But that was not Powell's rhetoric. What Powell said is the economy was doing very well. So what I said a month ago was if the economy is doing really well, why wouldn't you just tiptoe into the rate counting cycle with say a 25 base point cut and then see how the market absorbs it and get another month's inflation data.

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Well, we've gotten another month of inflation data, and it's showing that these are not huge moves, but it's showing that inflation was a core CPI, which is a little bit higher than expected. So again, the market is concerned that inflation is not whipped, that the Fed may have been overly precipitous in how it cut rates.

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Where does cloud go? Cloud is in search or advertising. That's got to be figured out. I don't know the answer to that.

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It certainly jolted me awake, Zach, so I'll tell you that.

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You think six guys on a yacht did this?

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I'm doing all in. I'm doing all in.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

1040.242

Don't change your hair. Don't change your hair for some guy. This isn't grease.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

1059.59

Yeah.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

1060.411

Uh-huh. I will be expecting a phone call from you.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

367.306

I'm sorry.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

698.828

Uh, yeah.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

702.23

Jeff?

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

707.337

This is Jeff, right? Yeah. Oh my God, what's up? Why are you calling me?

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

717.286

Yeah, I know what you do. We talked about it one night.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

727.054

We know each other? Yeah, you know Zach from this bar we met like a month ago?

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

737.903

Hey. Jeff, why are all these people on the line? What's up?

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

750.488

Okay. Okay. So you're just doing your show? Yeah.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

757.971

That's cool, man. That's really cool. We should hang again, you know? It was really fun last time.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

787.2

Okay. Okay.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

817.921

So you're saying Amanda called you to call me?

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

825.543

So this is just like a random thing? That's the only reason you're calling?

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

844.378

remember Zach you guys talked about horses at the country bar remember waffle phase her favorite fat horse from when she was little yeah I was just having a normal conversation didn't we have a blast yep we got along great Amanda but yeah I mean the tone alone what was wrong are you not attracted to Amanda No, she's very beautiful.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

927.461

Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like, you seem really, you seem really cool. And it's kind of like, you know, if, you know, if I was, if I really wanted, if I, I would have reached out or I would have found, you know, like, okay, Amanda, you seem great. You're, you're not, you're not quite my type.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

957.325

Oh, greatly, actually. Yeah.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

987.861

In so many ways, yes. Okay.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

990.783

We got it.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

1067.286

And I'm both solid, so there's a good chance you'll see me there.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

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Well, you know, I think fate will lend a hand and do its thing, and I've got a good feeling we'll see each other next month. Oh, my gosh.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

264.352

Well, I just ran into her again, and we actually went on another first date.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

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Yeah, well, it was like a few months in between when we did that.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

311.644

Yeah, man. I met her while I was bartending a joint bachelor slash bachelorette backyard party. And she was just one of the guests. Okay. Right.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

331.334

Well, she said that I basically talked about myself too much and my business too much.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

347.126

Well, it's kind of funny because I was bartending another bachelorette party. Oh, really? She was at that one, too.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

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I guess a lot of her friends are getting married right now, so she's bouncing from wedding to wedding.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

375.347

First, there was that deer in the headlights where we both just kind of locked eyes and froze for a second.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

381.691

Well, I didn't open up very well. I started with, you know, hey, it's funny that... A lot of your friends are getting snatched up, and you're still single.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

395.753

Yeah. I tried to stop it as it was coming out, but it didn't work. Oh, my gosh.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

402.338

Well, she said something like, well, there you have it. That's why I didn't want another date with you. Ah, yeah.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

420.411

Well, it wasn't really a date officially. It was like we... We were hanging out at the bachelorette party while I was on break, and then we were hanging out in this garden area, and we actually kind of made out a little bit.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

476.281

I beg to differ. I think she was definitely interested.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

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Probably the makeout. Yeah, I mean, it just seemed like there were sparks flying because she didn't pull back. She seemed to be into it, and I was certainly into it.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

502.84

That's correct. We're back at the square one. Oh, man.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

661.48

A little bit. I mean, come on. Things happen for a reason. And the fact that we ran into each other again, just, kind of sparked it for me. Like, you know, maybe there is something here. Maybe fate's stepping in.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

841.858

Yeah, here we are back again.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

853.544

You said it was a good mistake though. I do not remember saying that part.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

871.112

I was probably the last guy you made out with. So, you know, I must be the ringer.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

879.919

I figured you were kind to me. You trusted me to call you an Uber where you didn't trust anyone else to call one for you. Oh,

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

951.303

Okay, you know what? If dating a successful mobile bartender isn't really a dream come true for you, I do have bigger goals than that. Oh. I also want to integrate mobile karaoke with it as well. Hey. It's actually smart plans.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

972.129

You can come get your confidence from me and then go ahead and sing your song right after.

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update: First Date Redate

990.056

One thing you probably don't know about me is that I was basically raised in a trailer. And for my ninth birthday, I got a microphone in a boom box and I used it. I kind of have a natural sound in my voice as well. I wouldn't be surprised if it wooed you just hearing it.

Guru: Don't Cross Kat

Closing In | 5

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She's so sweet, right? She would never hurt a fly. What would you say about Leticia?

Guru: Don't Cross Kat

Closing In | 5

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How do you think Leticia feel right now that people are saying she's a prostitute and she makes sex for money in Texas? How do you think she feels right now about that?

Guru: Don't Cross Kat

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What do you think the police is thinking about all this bullshit? What do you think they're thinking?

Guru: Don't Cross Kat

Closing In | 5

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Right? I think the police in America has more dangerous people to go after than us, than me, right? I can be pretty much dangerous when I'm angry, but I think they have worse people to catch.

Guru: Don't Cross Kat

Closing In | 5

1111.519

And when people cross me, how do I behave?

Guru: Don't Cross Kat

Closing In | 5

1120.985

Very angry, right?

Guru: Don't Cross Kat

Closing In | 5

876.287

You say to people, are you proud to be married to me?

Guru: Don't Cross Kat

Closing In | 5

880.37

Very proud?

Guru: Don't Cross Kat

Closing In | 5

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What would you say to people that I am for you in your heart? What am I? Your wife? What else?

Guru: Don't Cross Kat

Closing In | 5

918.45

For Kat, it was Zach's family who were the real manipulators. So they invented that I was a whore, the cam girl and stuff, because they didn't want you to go, right? So they invented all these stories, and they continue inventing all those stories. And do you think they're manipulative people, your family? Do you think your father is a manipulative person? Extremely.

Guru: Don't Cross Kat

Closing In | 5

947.489

Do you think your father has some mental issues?

Guru: Don't Cross Kat

Closing In | 5

964.722

His father has no meaning. Kill him. Kill him. Kill, let's just say. Kill him. Kill his father. Whose father? Kill Zachary's father.

Guru: Don't Cross Kat

Closing In | 5

999.793

What would you say about Desiree?

Otherworld

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But I remember it was odd that it didn't seem to pop out of somewhere. It didn't come from behind a tree. I saw it just standing there in a small pile of bush. It felt like it hadn't been there like two seconds ago. It's sitting in the same posture that a dog would have if you told it to sit, but it's facing me directly, pretty still.

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At this point, I'm still because I'm a little dumbfounded at what I'm seeing. It doesn't immediately strike me as so odd because it's in a familiar shape like a canine, but the more I look at it, the weirder it looks. I immediately knew it wasn't my dog because my dog is a miniature black lab and this dog is very white. The color is almost like somebody had drowned it in paint, in white paint.

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But additionally, the light scattered around it in a really strange way. It was like it was getting a light source that nothing else was. Like it was reflecting light that only it was receiving. It wasn't shining on anything else. I struggle to describe this because I haven't seen anything like it before or since, but it was as if it was putting out light that it shouldn't have.

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If you've ever seen a bad Photoshop where the lighting on somebody's face is clearly much too bright for everyone else in the photo, but they just Photoshopped it in. It looked almost something like that. Looking at the thing, it was almost like it was a reverse creature that looks like it's made out of a shadow. Like this thing was made out of light, but it had distinct features.

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It wasn't super amorphous. It had a distinct shape and it had fur. It looked in the shape of like a husky, if it were all white. It had the very wolf-like features with the long snout and the pointy ears. The bizarre effect of the light meant that I couldn't see detailed features very well. That was definitely enough to see the shoulders. I could see the head.

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I could see which direction it was looking. I couldn't see its eyes very well. I could not see a tail. That could have just been the way that it was sitting. It was totally still. I didn't see it move at all.

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It threw me off. I was on a bit of a march, you know, trying to get this unruly dog, and almost like it had interrupted me. You know, I stood there and stared at it, and I was trying to figure out, is this some coyote that I haven't seen before? You know, is this a wildlife that I haven't run into yet that doesn't seem...

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Super likely, but then my second thought was, I still haven't seen or heard anything from my dog. It's actually quite quiet outside. I'm kind of protective of her, and I didn't want her to get hurt. She also has a bit of a habit of going after any wildlife she sees, so I was definitely worried that she might run after this thing. I kind of snap out of my stun,

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and just in a bit of blind drive to protect my dog, I actually start approaching the thing. I start walking towards it because it's still in the area where my dog ran off to. It's like kind of the last direction I saw her run away to. So I keep going towards it and I get a little bit louder. and a little bit more of a frustrated tone. I'm calling out to my dog, you know, get back inside.

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I don't know where you are. I'm kind of pulling out all the stops to try and get her to come back to me. She knows the word inside, so I was saying that a lot. I'm moving, I'm still just walking. I didn't want to run, but I have a good march moving towards this thing. And I'm calling out to Olive, and I got maybe...

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I probably moved another, yeah, like 30 feet, maybe 10, yeah, 10 yards closer to it while being louder and a little bit more noticeable than I was before. But I'm still keeping one eye on this thing. It's so strange and I'm so kind of confused. I don't want to leave the line of sight, especially since it's been facing me the entire time. It's looking right at me.

Otherworld

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So I'm looking right at the thing. I almost never break eye contact with it, really, despite all my yelling and marching. And that's about when the canine figure stood up, but not as a canine. It's almost like from the light, the figure of light that it was, it then stands up into the shape of a man. Man, it's weird.

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It's almost like the shape of the man was already inside of the dog, and then it stood out of it like a bug coming out of a cocoon. but it didn't leave much left over. I didn't see anything left behind. I also didn't really see, I didn't see limbs or features halfway through transition because it was so fast. It was very, very smooth. He was standing straight up.

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It was about six feet tall, maybe taller, medium build, maybe 190 pounds. Pretty thin, but like I'm a thin guy. He wasn't as thin as I am, but like not a lot of fat. It was lean. When it stood up into the shape of a man, it was still looking at me head on. It didn't change its orientation and it had its arms at its side. Very calm, very still.

Otherworld

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Just looking at me, it continued to have that weird glow, that weird iridescent aura, if you want to call it that, that shimmering almost look to it. But it no longer had fur. It had a smoother looking texture to it. Whereas before with the dog, the fur texture of it almost helped give it some definition. When it was a man, it was like totally smooth. The face was totally void of any features.

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I couldn't see a bridge of the nose. I couldn't see a brow. I couldn't even really see where the chin separated from the neck, you know, the kind of jawline. I couldn't really see that very easily. It was almost like a white silhouette. I couldn't see hair on top of its head, so it almost looked like it was bald.

Otherworld

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I couldn't see its body in too good of detail, so it might have had some sort of clothing on that was slim fitting or maybe it was just a naked naked man. When it changed shape, I immediately knew that I was dealing with. something of a category that I'd never dealt with before.

Otherworld

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I had never experienced any sort of cryptid or creature that came into my life, or I hadn't even really heard of anything like that in Western Washington. So I was a little bit scared. I think I felt also a bit of excitement, if I'm being honest. It was a little exciting to be like, what is this fantastic thing that's happening?

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But also that tucked back into frustration with like, why is this happening while I'm trying to find my dog? You know, I felt almost like this would be a lot cooler if I could stick around and look at this thing, maybe try and get a photo or who knows, maybe even try and interact with it somehow. But I was so focused on getting my dog away from it and in my eyesight, I didn't want to.

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didn't want to mess with it too much. I have another moment of probably stunned awe as I watch this thing in the shape of a man. But the same cycle continues, I guess. I get even more worried and I start walking again towards it. I probably moved another, yeah, like 30 feet, maybe 10 yards closer to it while being louder and a little bit more

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noticeable than I was before, I start turning a little bit to the right just because I think I had heard something by that point that I thought maybe my dog was off and to the right. But I only make it maybe three more steps towards this thing and towards the woods when It rotated itself slowly to what was my right. It rotates just turning slowly, and that's when it took off into the woods.

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It just ran away. But the way that it ran was so strange. It didn't look like it disturbed any vegetation whatsoever. It was completely silent. And it was super fast, clearly faster than any human speed that I've ever seen. And it was weird that it didn't seem impeded by the terrain.

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The woods out there, the ground is filled with sticks and potholes and, you know, little animal dugouts, all those sorts of things that happen in big fields. This thing was just like gliding above all that. As it ran away, it didn't make any noise. I didn't hear any branches snapping or even low-hanging branches from the trees. It didn't seem to hit or interact with anything as it ran.

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The frame of the man was moving at a comfortable pace, like a steady jog, but it zipped out of my field of view, going at least... 50, 60 miles per hour, somewhere in there. It looked like it was moving faster than it could carry itself with its arms and legs. It was like a poorly animated video game where the character was moving faster than it had been animated for.

Otherworld

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So it ran out of my field of vision to the right towards a property that my uncle owns. And it's a more heavily wooded area. So it looked like it was kind of running back into the woods or the forest, you know. But kind of got swallowed up by the trees and the foliage as it just went off. My immediate reaction after that was a bit of relief, but a little bit more fear because...

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It was so unassuming beforehand. I didn't really get any, even though I was afraid before, I wasn't really feeling any immediate danger because it had been so unassuming, just watching me, staring at me. But when it ran away like that, I got a sense of almost respect. Like, oh, this thing is obviously very, very capable of things that I don't understand. I'd never seen anything move like that.

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I don't know. Just, yeah, unexplainable. What do you do in a moment like that? I was just standing there in my pajamas, just watching it run away, wondering where it was going. I wondered if it had maybe dipped out of being visible or if it had gone somewhere else. So that was a bit of a frightful moment, but it was pretty short-lived because my dog came back almost immediately afterwards.

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My dog came back to me surprisingly relaxed. She's a bit of an anxious dog sometimes, so I thought that she would have seen it I thought that she would have come back with her ears forward and her eyes ready to find something. But she came back with her tongue hanging out and her tail was up but relaxed. And she just seemed ready to go inside after that. She was slightly off to the right of me.

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So she was much closer to the thing than she was to me, actually. Almost like she had been hiding in the bushes right there. waiting for it to be over. I was very relieved to see her come back to me. I gave her a bunch of love and pets and stuff, and I just decided we ought to go inside right now.

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It sounds silly, but I've heard ghost stories and things like that before, and as long as you go inside quickly, it seems to work out. So I was determined to get her back inside. Yeah, then I was just kind of trying to digest what had just happened as I was walking back. I was feeling a little electric.

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Like suddenly all of the nerves that I should have been experiencing up until that point finally came into my body and I was feeling real loose in the legs, real anxious to get back inside. Like, okay, that moment's over. I can think about it now, but let's get inside. Came inside. I think I left the lights on. because I was curious, but I think I went straight to bed.

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The roller coaster of being terribly anxious about my dog and then the relief of getting her back to me and knowing that she was safe, climbing into bed with the dog that night felt pretty good. She and I went to bed pretty soundly after that. The next day, it was... I think it was bizarrely lonely. If I had to put a word to it.

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I knew that when you have something like this happen to you, people aren't too quick to rush to believe you. People aren't usually that immediately accepting of telling them a story like this. I almost had trouble accepting that it happened to me. But of course, I had seen it with my own eyes. I couldn't deny it. So I don't think I told my parents immediately.

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In fact, I don't think I told anybody that this had happened to me for several weeks. I don't think I was terrified of what they would say, but I just didn't really know how to bring it up. I didn't know what to say. Obviously, I was curious about what I had seen. So the first place to go would be someone else who's maybe seen that before in that area. I go to my uncle's.

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And I'm a little bit timid. I'm a little not sure what to say, but I just come out and ask him, like, hey, have you seen a weird white dog or man shapeshifter in the woods? And he stared at me for a couple seconds before answering and just thought, no, have you? And I said, yeah, I don't know what it was, but I saw it out here and ran off into your neck of the woods.

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He said, no, never seen anything like that. I was confused, I guess. I mean, about the same place where I was before. I wasn't expecting him to tell me that he had seen anything. But yeah, still looking for answers. When I finally got around to bringing this up with my parents, I think we were having dinner or something, and I had just brought up

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did I ever tell you my spooky story about what I saw in your backyard? And they said, no. So I gave them the rundown, and their immediate reaction was to ask me if I had been smoking weed that night, to ask me if I had been sober during it. They thought that maybe I saw an owl, like a big white barn owl that flew away, or maybe I saw...

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a really white coyote that stood up on its hind legs or something, you know? And I thought, well, that's nice of you to speculate. It was certainly, certainly much stranger than that. Thankfully, you know, I've, I've known them a long time and, um, this wasn't the first time that they had said something silly about weed.

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So I didn't really let it get to me too much, but I guess I was a little bummed that they didn't seem to take it too seriously. I thought this is a really interesting thing that happened in your backyard. If this happened in mine, I'd be pretty curious to know about it. I genuinely hadn't smoked that night. I remember distinctly because I came back inside. I mean,

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Not that I've ever experienced anything like that as a result of smoking, but I was not high that night. By the way, if you don't know, there's no amount of weed or type of weed that you could smoke that would make you see something like this. I've never heard a story of anyone experiencing anything like this with marijuana. So I left my parents with that, figured I'd let them stew with that.

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But the way it's affected me since then... It's made me much more, I think, open to listening to people's stories, considering other perspectives or ways of how the world works. I've dissected this story several different ways to try and understand what may have happened to me. Was I visited by an extraterrestrial? Was this a cryptid, like a skinwalker?

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Or was this some like even religious entity? Was this a spirit? Was this an angel or a demon? What was this thing? So nowadays when I hear stories or fantastic things that happen to people, I'm much more likely to consider the possibility that it's something otherworldly, like that it's something not of this place, People have said some interesting things that I haven't connected.

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Like a lot of people react to the fact that it probably saw my dog before me and its first shape. It appears as a canine. And then when I get closer to it, it changes into a man. It sounds strange, but I don't think that it was malevolent. It didn't really seem intimidating at or like it was out to harm me. And also the fact that it was so bright. I don't know.

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I think that made me inclined to think like, maybe this thing's a good thing, but, but of course that's, that could be skin deep. You know, it could just be the way that it looks. I have kind of avoided trying to put a label on it because I, I feel like if I, if I try and think of it in too narrow of a margin that I'm going to,

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or I'm going to maybe like try and convince myself of something too specific. I don't want to put it in a box, but I think it was some sentient entity that's not from where we are. I visit my folks regularly these days and I bring my dogs. I have two now and they go out and they run around the same area that they were before. It definitely comes back into my mind

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mind when it's at night and I let them out. I have a bit of a closer eye on them when I let them out at night. But it's given me a bit of a sense of wonder almost for the woods. The spot that I'm in now is actually almost more secluded and you hear lots of noises. I've seen lots of wildlife and it just gives me a sense of like feeling small.

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There's a lot of things out there that we don't know about, and I think that's really cool.

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My name's Zach. I'm a cannabis farmer in Olympia, Washington. I grew up here in Olympia, and I spent a lot of my time outdoors. I was a Boy Scout. I did a lot of hiking and backpacking, things like that, a lot of outdoorsy stuff. My job, I clock in and out. I've got a regular weekday schedule. A lot of people have I've learned to have very different wild views of what my work looks like.

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Some people ask me, like, am I walking around a cannabis orchard picking up the ripe fruits from the trees or some, you know, some like Garden of Eden idyllic style of growing. It's not quite like that because we harvest the whole plants. So sometimes it does take the form of almost like a factory setting, an assembly line setting where

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There's a strict schedule and every 10 days a new room has to come down and then get repopulated. So it's a lot more work than people would think. There's a lot of steps and a lot of diligence. A lot of the job is, frankly, some annoying paperwork and like just double, triple checking that you've done everything correctly.

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You haven't left anything on or done anything outside of the norm because they're very particular plants. I grew up third generation Mormon, so all of my grandparents were Mormon and they had kids that were Mormon. I would go to church probably two or three times a week, every week growing up, like kindergarten through high school. I grew up here in Olympia.

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I would consider myself a Washingtonian, but I did move here when I was five. I was born in Provo, Utah, which is like, man, that's the spawn point of Mormons right there. It's a very demanding religion, I would say. There's a lot of rules. I wasn't allowed to go play out with my friends on Sundays unless we were doing something rather spiritual, which no kid in the summer wants to do.

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But I definitely had... a different view of a lot of things that I have now. You know, like cannabis, for instance, is an obvious one where I grew up being told that it was something really bad or negative. It could only be a negative, that it's ultimately just harmful to you.

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Or even worse, you know, it could be the influence of the devil or it could be some sort of very evil thing that controls your mind. I mean, people range the gambit there, but, you know, you hear lots of things My views started to change when I left home at 18 years old. I started to have doubts in high school.

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Things that I was being told at church or home didn't necessarily align with what I felt or what I observed outside of those areas. And getting away from home at 18, ironically, going back to Utah where I went to school. So it seems a little bit backwards.

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But then once I was there, I felt like a lot of the things that I grew up assuming or just taking for granted, I felt maybe I could be kinder to myself and consider alternatives to what I had felt. And that's when I really started peeling apart a lot of core foundational beliefs that I had coming from the Mormon church. and getting rid of them.

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So I had gotten to a point in college where I either needed to go into a lot of debt or find something else to do. And I cut my losses and I moved back to My folks ended up living with them just because I came back to Washington and needed a place to stay. I had found my first job growing cannabis, and I was just staying with them for a little bit while I found an apartment.

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I eventually did later that year. They probably reacted better than a lot of people would think. When I told a lot of my currently Mormon or also formerly Mormon friends, a lot of them threw their eyebrows up pretty high. a little worried about what my parents might do or think, but my parents were pretty good about it.

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They respected the fact that I was getting a regular decent paycheck from something that I enjoyed doing, so I think they had a pretty good perspective about it. My folks live in Olympia, Washington. It's It's a rural spot like outside of town. I think it's technically outside of the city limits. And it used to be actually a sheep ranch. So it was wide, big open areas.

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But like a lot of places in western Washington, the perimeter is like a wall of massive evergreen trees. Inside, kind of the middle of the property is more grassy fields. around their house and things like that. But then the perimeter is enormous, enormous trees. My uncle and my mom's brother lives pretty close, but not within eyesight. So they kind of are secluded.

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They have two separate kind of walls of trees that keep their area hidden from the other neighbors. So it's pretty secluded, but not totally in the middle of nowhere, not someplace that it'd be tough to find someone. It was definitely weird being at home with my folks. Just a clash of lifestyles, you could say.

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Of course, I understood being in somebody else's home, being a guest, even if it's my parents, I wanted to be respectful and not intrude too much. But my uncle was nice enough and a little bit understanding. He He said, I've got a barn out here. If you ever need to get away from the folks, just to get out of the house, you can go in there and crack open a beer or whatever.

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Just go have some space to yourself. So sometimes I made it a nice little nighttime habit. I would go out of my folks' place, take the dog out with me. We'd walk around. So then I'd go out into this barn and It was a nice little bit of space. They have a horse ranch, my uncle. So there's several horse stalls. There aren't any horses in it at this time.

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It's mostly things like their feed or spare saddles, spare horseshoes, things like that. And the upper level is like literally just storage. So one night... I decided to do my night walk. I take my dog out and we go over to the barn. Her name's Olive. I'm walking pretty slowly, pretty relaxed. But the barn entrance is open. It's a really big sliding barn door that's been left open.

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And I can hear this rustling up top. It immediately strikes me as odd because no one really ever goes up there. It's frankly so inconvenient to get to. It's been left alone. And I'm listening to this thing and clearly my dog can hear it because she's barking, kind of warning growls and warning little puffs of breath. So she's clearly spooked.

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The noises that I was hearing sounded like a step-step slide, almost like somebody was dragging something, or like a creature that had an injured leg. It didn't sound like it was coming from a small, light creature. The sounds were from something that weighed at least 60, 70 pounds. You know, I'm standing relatively close to whatever the source of the noise is, And my dog can hear it.

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She's spooked. It could be some large animal. And my next thought after that was, if it's a creature, I don't really think I want to go face to face with that, especially in a compromised position like climbing up a ladder. My sense of, I guess, self-preservation outweighed my curiosity and decided that none of those things were worth investigating. And I turned right back around.

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I went off into some other part of the woods on the other end of my folks' property away from my uncle's and just finished out my evening there. I asked my uncle the next day about these noises because I was very curious. I wanted to be respectful. I mean, it was still his space that I was using. I asked him, were you in the barn last night? Or do you know if somebody was in the barn last night?

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And he said... No, I don't even think anyone was working on the ranch that day. He said there's no reason anyone or anything should have been up there. And he was a little concerned and confused. He just thought that's really weird and you should tell me if anything happens again. After asking my uncle about what had happened, everything was pretty quiet on the ranch for a while after that.

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Didn't see anything out of the ordinary. Everything was normal until a couple of months later. This was a pretty ordinary day. I'd gone through the evening. Nothing much had happened. I was beginning my ordinary nightly routine, and I was completely sober at the time, brushing my teeth, and I was going to take my dog outside to go to the bathroom.

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Normally, I'd take her out the back door where there was just one little area of light. But outside of their house, it would just... It opens up into this big field surrounded by trees. There's a nice big, large window in the back door so I can see out there. And I don't see anything. Sometimes I'll check for animals before I let the dog out, you know. And... I opened the door.

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She steps out pretty calmly, just like we always do. I think I stayed inside to watch her go outside. And she steps out the patio. I could kind of see in her body language, she was ready to bolt. She's an adventurous dog. She likes to sniff things and check things out. So it wasn't a surprise to me that she would run away. And she's a black dog, so she quickly disappears.

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I found some shoes, quickly threw those on, ran out the back door myself. And I start, calmly at first, I start walking down this path, the same one that she went down. And I'm keeping my head on a swivel. I'm trying to see if I can just barely spot her in the dark, or maybe I can hear her footsteps. But no dice. I can't really see anything while I'm first going out there.

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The light from the house didn't go very far. I wasn't super far from the house, but the light by now, I can't really see what I'm stepping on super well. I'm going off of my familiarity of the area, just following the path. I'm looking around, but I can't see much at all. I'm really trying to listen closely to see if I can hear something.

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But going farther and farther from the house always made me more nervous because I knew the farther that she got, the more likely she was to get into something. I remember walking and looking down to make sure I wasn't going to trip on something in the dark. And when I look up... I see something. It's what looked like the shape of a canine at first.

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episode 125 i'm gonna see if i can split the g what are you gonna try to split again if and and if you had to put all your money on this is a real life would you rather i feel like this is wrong to be not having it out of a guinness cup i think it's okay um be kind yourself if i had a million dollars right now to bet on if you successfully split the g what is splitting the g are we just in the window just in the window in the g i get it if i had a million dollars to bet yeah because we just did one

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Yeah, Zach was addicted in high school. He was having three containers a day. So what?

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I'm not coming at you. I'm just saying be careful.

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Yeah, I know you were. I know you were.

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Careful. You guys careful. You careful. I'm an adult. I'm an adult man. Within moderation. I'm an adult man. They are really good though. Yeah. I mean, I actually went. They're fun. I went. Yeah. Yeah. I went the whole fruit, the fruit variety. Like yellow and red and blue. Not blue. Yellow, red, green. Dude. So good. Yeah. Like you're just going to keep them in the whip. Yeah.

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And like, I guess like it's kind of minty. Like. Yeah. Yeah. Like if you. I did the white ones with and they're minty. They're fun. Yeah. Those are just minty and not fun. No, they're fun. They are fun. No, because like an Altoid is not fun. These have a little bit of flavor. I'm telling you. Flavor like mint? No, but they're better than just, like a red Altoid, red box Altoid is no fun.

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It's actually a business trip. It's actually like you're in pain. So I'd say Tic Tac, it's kind of like blue Altoid. Blue Box Altoid. Blue Box is still minty, but it's kind of tasty. Minty Fresh, yeah. Minty Fresh. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, the colored Tic Tacs are very fun. Very fun. They're very chill. My rookie, kind of similar vibe, man. He's our buddy. We've known him for a while.

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He's back in the rotation. String Cheese. Let's clap it up for them. Which one is a prize? Straight up? Yeah. Out of the bag? Sarah got string cheese. No, no, no. You know what we call them? Cheese sticks is what we call them. Oh, cheese sticks. Yes. I think people call them string cheese. I see what you're saying. Yes. They're back in the rotation, man.

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i mean they're good sarah got them from trader joe's just to like eat i guess and then i've like had a couple and they're good and by the way by the way and you have to string cheese them you don't want seven grams of protein yes yes so you can like you guys you can fill in the gaps there the protein and cheese is underrated yeah you could you could say like oh oh i need i need 21 let me punch let me punch 14 right here exactly yeah yes uh that's sarah does a protein coffee in the morning

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He's been, dude, he keeps reaching out. He's like going through a lot. He's like got a lot going on.

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Oh, me too. Cause she watches like Mel Gibbons or something, Mel Robbins. And she's like, she's awesome. Actually. She's actually like really, she's cozy as all get out. But she was like, you should do a protein coffee. And I was like, how much? And she's like 10. It's like, there might be 10 in like any drink. Yeah. There actually could be 10 in a Starbucks that just has some milk.

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That's what I'm saying. So it's like, I don't know if that's a protein drink, but. Yeah, I mean, it's more than zero. It is more than zero. More than a CFO. True. Confess. Does it go to me? Confess. Just confess, man. My confession is I've been golfing a lot more this past month. Like I golf, I play that part three pretty much every morning. I probably hit at the range every other day. Okay.

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And I don't think I've gotten any better at golf. I think golf might be the type of thing... Because we're naturally pretty good at athletics. Yeah. I think golf, maybe I just have to go to a coach. I don't think I literally... It's like I like my nine more than I used to, kind of. It's like I don't know if I've gotten any better. I think you just need to go to a coach once. Probably. Probably.

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I didn't get, I took his phone away. You did it. I don't even know. By the way, I don't even know how he got a phone. In the first place.

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Because if I play a lot, I get better. And you're swinging. I also had Sarah video me swinging, and I'm like, I'm not swinging the club right. No, no, no. So that's probably what it is. I mean, that's 100% what it is. I think it's like literally like five minutes with a coach. Like tell me, do this, this, this, this, and then I could.

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Yeah, because you have to practice hitting the ball the right way. Exactly. So I'm practicing hitting it the wrong way. Exactly. And there's just no way of getting around it. Wait, so do you grip the club the correct way? Yeah, grip it right for sure. Oh, really? Yeah, I do. This guy gets it right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Grip it right. Set up, like, I don't really know what to do with my feet.

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But then, like, Sarah was filming me from the back, and it's like the way I'm swinging is so wrong. Yeah. It's like the club was, like, facing, like, it's like something's f***ed up. But that's what I'm saying. Like, I think a coach, if it's, like, honestly, I feel like a f***ed up swing is almost better than, like, a good swing. Because it's like a blank canvas for a coach. Look at how wrong.

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I know, but look at how wrong. Is this how it looks?

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That's so wrong. You know what I mean?

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But it is like a blank canvas. Yeah. That's true. So maybe just buy one lesson. I probably will. Just get a lesson. And that'll get the job done for you. I'm excited to get... We got golf videos coming out. Yeah, we got golf videos coming. I haven't filmed them, but we will. We're going to start doing golf videos, yeah. Lachlan's going to be the filmer. It's going to be great, really.

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I didn't give him a phone. Yes, you did. I did not. You gave him a waterproof phone and you put it in his top. Bro, why are you saying that? But why are you saying that on the f***ing podcast? Why is it always on the f***ing podcast, Zach?

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It's like, I don't even remember what it feels like to be hungover. That's awesome. Like I, we, it's been so long since I got like drunk. I know it's yeah. Yes.

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Like, dude, I'm like flirting with like quitting heavy drinking.

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Yeah. Maybe for me, like St. Patty's, I threw a couple back. Yeah. See, it's like even that. Yeah. I don't, I, it's like a good, it's a, it's a positive thing, but it's like, it's, it's like, damn, like I don't even. Oh, my birthday hammered. I got, I got hammered on my birthday. Yes. That was fun. And that's what, when you get hammered. Exactly. Yeah. And were you hung over? Yes. Heavily.

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I was kind of inactive. So that's, that's when it was for me, but that's the worst. But it's like, other than that, like we really haven't been drinking. So do you want, so do you miss it? No, you don't miss being hung over. Do you? Yeah. It's like, I don't miss any part of it. I don't, I don't, I don't know. And it, you know what?

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It's like, it didn't even, we didn't even like, it wasn't like a, we're like, all right, this year we're not drinking. Yeah. We just haven't just haven't. I like, I like playing the game that way though. Yeah. It's like, it's like, we don't, we don't have to like, why do we have to make a play on a Friday?

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No, it's like, I mean like, it's like, I guess if you, if you threw back 10 of these, you'd be like, yeah, 10. Can I?

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i don't know i don't i'm just out i'm out of the game yeah and i like it that is i'm a fan of it no that's a great thing um what are we going to statista stat oh i have a stat that you'll probably get shit um it's another drake stat i mean you you're on drake spotify a lot probably

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a lot like on on his page you know um so today we're doing what are the top 10 songs on drake's top 10 spotify right now like when you click go to his profile and you look at the tent so you gotta think and what even is that by the way so it's it's based on like momentum you know how like when we started the pop we hit chart yeah yeah so it's like that because there's a lot of momentum so it's like you're gonna have you're like nokia is number one i'll just give you that kia

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I'm sick of it being out. No, because you won't talk about it with me off the pod.

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nokia's in the one um but then like you're also going to have like greatest hits obviously one dance um one dance in the three with 3.6 billion now i'm gonna struggle because it's like i just don't know what's going to be in there i'll tell you this there's fruit in the five there's uh let's see jimmy cooks in the night i'm just trying to visualize it with my eyeballs

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Yeah, there's like a big hit in the seven. I'll tell you this. There's two other sexies on there. Sexy songs. Two sexy songs? Two sexies. Give me a hug. It's not going to the 10. Give me a hug. Give me a hug. Give me a hug. Give me a hug. Give me a hug. Give me a hug. So what are the good sexy songs? CN Tower. That's a good guess because it's the first song. First song.

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But it's not going to be out there. I've never asked for a verb for this. Really nice, man. Really nice stuff there. Sexy songs. What are the sexiest songs on there? Yeah, the song just kind of became like a low-key hit. It did? Yeah, it's just like, I feel like I hear the sound a lot of places, and it's just like a very different sound for Drake. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Did I try? Yeah, in the two.

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Yeah, I remember listening to that for the first time, and I was like, I love this. I can't wait to see what people think about it. It's great. It seems like they like it. Yeah, it's like a pop song.

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yeah um party killed it on that one i will say yeah yeah you just you played the role of like post malone yeah and it sounded great um so you got the four the four is kind of i don't think you've got but they're they're these are all hits yeah we got four hits six give me some albums man uh six is a hit uh i'll give you eight is like a old classic drake old classic drake headlines

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It's unprofessional, and Scott doesn't deserve that. Can we restart? I want to see what Scott said. I actually don't know why. My messages aren't loading. Maybe you're on the wrong. No, because I've talked with Scott.

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wow in the eight wow um the four we got four six and that's oh i can't i can't know what's in there i can't say you know what's in there what she will in the four how did you know that uh because i've i've i've gone to his his bottom all right so you might get it here luckily we didn't put any toe stomps or anything on the yeah we did on the docket today And you know what?

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Sometimes you don't even need toe stomps to win. No, we're just hooping. Yeah. What? We can't just hoop to hoop? Yeah, we can't hoop to hoop. What? I don't know if you'll get this one. I mean, if you've been on Drake's body. I have. You're familiar with this one. Needs the six to win. Wait, it's just the six? I think so. So here's the problem. She Will was in the four. I remember seeing that.

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One dance, She Will. Wait, did you say? What's the five? I know you said Passion Fruit. Passion Fruit, I did. And then we have the six you haven't guessed. Headlines, Jimmy Cooks, Give Me a Hug. I don't know if he gets a seven.

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is the seven i can't remember a good song or biggest hit ever maybe for god's plan yeah how do you guess that all right seven and then you need the six so the problem with the six is i you got two lives here too and it's like i only run i only look at five Yeah, except for they did a new thing, you know, where you can kind of... You don't really run. No, no, no. I just check in real quick.

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You're in this game, man. You really are. It's going to be just one of his biggest hits. It's got Billy. It's got a Billy. It's got a Billy. Oh, I know what it is.

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Wait for you is in the six. Good thing I didn't put the toe stops. Good thing the toe stops weren't on the line. And we do it every time. That's unbelievable. I just happened to not put the toe stops. That would have been electric right now. That would go viral. And then we could post that clip. Kind of humiliating for me. All right. So we kind of touched on Nuggets.

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Do we want to touch any more on the Nuggets here?

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Let's predict the exact scores, and then if one of us gets it right, $1,000 to the other person. Exact score, Lakers. Okay. Lakers-Wolves tonight.

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Okay. I got 109-103, Lakers. Similar vibe. I think the Lakers win tonight. But the Wolves also just might win, you know? I mean, they are... Did you see the Anthony Edwards clip? Yeah, yeah. Oh, my... Pretty awesome. Fucking awesome. You know that's what all those guys want to do all the time. Dude, he's awesome. Flex his bread and then just say, I got a bigger dick. I have a bigger dick than you.

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And then the guy was just like, nothing, nothing. Fuck. That was awesome. That must have felt awesome. Yeah. Did he even ask about that? No punishment. No, not really. No punishment. Not that I've seen. Not that I've seen. I mean, I think he's going to get fined $100,000 for that. You got to. It's not a great look for the brand.

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it's a no it is i think it's an amazing look for the brand i think it's like if i i would buy aes because i'm like this guy's i would oh for aes brand for sure yeah oh if you're like if you're like there's seven year olds in the crowd yeah i'm saying for the nba gotta relax there yeah yeah yeah a kid is just like what the like like that's bad that's my hero and he's talking about his dick he's doing this yeah tough tough look but i think that guy that show is hilarious yeah i like it

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Oh, I love Anne. I like Anne a lot. And what he said about Denver was awesome. That was awesome. I don't even think that's true, by the way. If you go to a Nuggets game... Oh, it's f***ing loud as f*** in the playoffs. It's loud, but it's like... There will be like Wolves fans. I mean, yeah, but we'll see. We're going to go to the Clips Nuggets. Yeah, we will just see.

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Yeah, what, he was just, like, zipping around? He would just go full speed, just run into the glass. Yeah, that's not right.

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I think the Clips will probably have like the worst of any other team. Oh, well, Clippers fans don't exist. Yeah, so it'll be like... It might be like half Nuggets. If you are a Clippers fan, let us know. Yeah, because we've done this before, and I don't think we've gotten any.

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Yeah. You're about to have Luka for the next 10. You've got the future going. Oh, dude, absolutely no reason. They have a really nice future, actually. Yeah. I also think, I mean, the Thunder, I think, are just going to sweep now.

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They won by 50. By definition, most valuable player to his team is Jokic by far.

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The announcer was talking about it yesterday. They're like, it's going to be really close. We'll see if it's close. I think everybody, I think the odds are like Shea just basically won. No chance. But I think people just fucking voted. Because they're like Yokes. It's not even close. The answer is Nikola Jokic.

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Like, he's just, like... No, I think that's just what fish do, though.

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Also, somebody was saying yesterday, it was like he's a three-time MVP that just had his best year by far. So how did it make that make sense? And it's not his fault that they probably shouldn't have given it to him when he got his second MVP.

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Right. By the way, he's that type of guy where he should win every year, technically. Then that's fine. Do we go right into Q's? Do we want a P.O. Box at all? I think that chocolate piece, Zach, we should try that. I saw people saying the chocolate is the thing overseas. This is what they do over in the United Kingdom.

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United Kingdom. United States Kingdom.

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What is it feeling like over there? Before I bite into it. It's fine. What was it? Can I get a little background on what it's supposed to be? You fumble it?

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Okay, I don't know where my DMs with Scott are. He might have blocked me.

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Yeah, I was tasting chocolate from that. That's cool. I mean... You like chocolate? I mean, that's an 8 out of 10. Yeah, 8 out of 10. That's an 8 out of 10. I guess, like, maybe, like, if you freeze it... Yeah, I feel like there's more to that bar.

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Yeah. Like, you're... Dude, you can... Like, talk your shit. Yeah, he doesn't even want to be on camera. Kind of feels like a kinder.

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yeah yeah yeah yeah share a share a bubble you can share a bubble dude you're dope man yeah he's why is he so shy yeah i didn't mean to spam well i was trying to give him like a my bad was that did he okay sorry i didn't mean to spank him is that what it looked like you did right okay yeah my bad so and also like nestle just kind of like by the way is it nestle or nestle

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But, um... Oh, I'm on the wrong page. Here we go. That's what I was saying. No, but I thought I was logged into me and I was logged into BB and I've been talking to Scott. So Scotty has said these things in the back. So we got, so pops don't lie to me. Have you ever, so he was saying all that.

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I don't know. I have no idea. I have zero idea. Yeah, that was good chocolate. Okay, I didn't mean to. I was trying to. It was like a camaraderie. Are those sour skint lakes? They're random, so I would have to guess that they're just going to be random. I don't know where you got that.

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Can I get one of the other randoms? But, like, that's just, like, that has nothing to do with the other candies. It looks like a wiener.

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Okay, my bad, dude. I'm having fun, man. What the f*** are you doing? Okay, my bad.

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All right, my fucking thought. It's clearly a... Come on, man. Come on, man.

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I mean, that was good. That was good. 8-1 out of 10. And I think it's fun. They just do random shapes. Oh, are you going high? Are you upping the ante? I'm 8-1. Well, it seems like there's a bit of a... Let me get one other one. Just to see what's going on. That's really good, man. That's 8-4 for me. The randomness might up it.

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That one was different than the first one. That one, I just felt like a gummy. I'm going 8-4 as well. 8-6, actually.

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what is that yeah and they're all different pieces by the way they're all different wow i had a great unique experience here i would say i'm having my second random i'm i'm on an eight seven my second random was a great experience but it wasn't unique okay okay that's fine is this unique And you prioritize with your candy uniqueness, right? It's like your categories are sweetness.

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Sweetness, poison, uniqueness. But for randoms, hell yeah, man.

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All right. I'm going to date seven. I think it's really fun.

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Yeah, those are fun. We got anything else? One more?

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we do three oh this cardberry are those cardberry or something yeah so I saw cadbury so I saw a stick said like as a as an English stick I'm pissed that this wasn't the first thing you tried okay well we didn't know alright no but he was being he was like praising you pissed at us no no he was just like praising the egg okay listen he was just saying first of all do you the stick that sent this has sent us like a month's worth of food yeah yes unbelievable yes shout out to staff man

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So Scott was seeing fishing content for the first time, which that's, you have to have that conversation with every fish. Like it was the first time he had seen people fishing and he said to me, pops don't lie to me. Have you ever done this? If so, I'm swimming away.

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Could win MVS. For sure. Like really could. Whoa. Yeah, these look really good. They're like matte. Whoa. I love that, man. Whoa. I really enjoyed that. I really enjoyed that, man. Yeah. So you're having an out-of-body thing. Because I've never heard you make that noise. Dalton, can we run the replay on that? I think you left body. I really enjoyed that. I really enjoyed that, man. Yeah, yeah.

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That's probably the best. That's probably the best. I get it. I get why that's what we... Are we getting another one? Because I want to. Yeah, let me get one more. Wow! Let's see if... Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's like the milk really cuts through. He's blacked out right now. Best friend in the shit world. That was really good. And for those of you that have mesothelioma, I'm sorry. What's that?

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Hearing people eat? Yeah, I don't think it's called that, but it's called something with philia or phobia. Yeah, sorry. I'm sorry about that. So that was great. What else? Questions? That was Prime D Rose. Let's go into... All right, Spongebob Squarebasket is back. He's got challenge number three. Keep them coming, Squarebasket. He said... So today's is ask Zach to name a random fruit.

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And if he says blank, you have to start next pot off with 15. Oh, that stinks, man. Man, that's damn it, man. That stinks. Oh, terrible. This is the worst. These guys came in. It's your first time wearing a sweatsuit. They got they got beat up. And the problem with these two is they're going to be like, we're not podcasting again.

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I said, never, son, stop watching that stuff.

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At least it wasn't the cream one. Yep. Yep. Without context, that doesn't make a lot of sense. Yeah. At least it wasn't like a... I don't actually... I have context.

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Yeah, I don't. A cream like chocolate? Dude, I don't know. What the f***?

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I don't know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. Like a cream candy? No, I'm saying we got a gray one of these and we got the cream color, which is basically white. Yeah, because if you're a white sweatsuit and you get dirty, you're done. You can't get a spec. I actually feel really bad for white clothes because of that. Exactly. You get shelved. I was about to wear the cream colored sweatsuit.

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And then he said, also, why is this celebrated like it's some kind of reward? Uprooting little fishes away from their family isn't cool. Something's going on here, and I don't like it. Yeah, it's not cool. I mean, it's a hard conversation you have to have with every fish. It's tough. You've got to navigate that. And you can't lie and say it doesn't happen. People fish.

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And there's like a spec of something. You're almost a one and done wear. Exactly. You can't get fucking touched. If that got on that, I would have literally had to retire him. Yeah, you can play through. But then it gets scary when you get in the wash if you have a shrinking dryer. It's really scary stuff. Yeah, I haven't even thought that far ahead. Yeah, sorry about that.

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Challenge three, ask Zach to name a random fruit. If he says blank, I'm not going to tell you what it is. You have to start the next pot off with 15 reversed farts. I think he means reverb fart before you can say anything. Stay spongy. I really don't want you to get this. I do not want to start with 15 farts because we're trying to use this in the right way.

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You know, like it started as like, I have to Venmo. Well, he, Square Basket has money. That's what I'm saying. That doesn't move the needle at all. Don't say it, dude. Watermelon. We are safe. Thank God. It was if he says pineapple. Pineapple. That's a normal fruit. Were you thinking pineapple? No, I was always thinking watermelon. Okay, so we're good.

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I don't, I never, I never would want to start a pod. Just fart, fart, fart, fart, fart. Yeah. Yeah. It'd push it. Like that pod would be straight to 10 out of 10 on you. Yeah. Or, or, or straight to one. Yeah. We want more fart stuff. Yeah. Who knows? Yeah. Victor Olivo said, would you rather go the whole day? I have an easy answer here.

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He said, would you rather go the whole day and notice your shirts on backwards or your pants are on backwards? Whole day, shirts on backwards, pants on backwards.

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What are you doing right now? Are shorts pants? You're wearing jeans, okay? And I'm going to do the pants because it could be like, people could see it and be like, oh, that's the style thing they're doing right now. Exactly. A shirt that's backwards? There's nothing. Embarrassing. It's just embarrassing. There's no way around it.

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I don't know. I guess, I guess if, yeah, if you, if you're like, if you like, like have no pants on and somebody says put some pants on, you put shorts on, you put pants on. Yeah. They wouldn't say, they would say all shorts are pants. You know what it is? All shorts are pants. Not all pants are shorts. No pants or shorts. Exactly. No pants or shorts, actually. Yeah. Solve that.

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Dark Toaster's back. Good. Good, good, good. Dark Toaster's back. I haven't heard from him in a while. Last he was here, he retired. Oh, yep. That's why I want to see him. Yeah, he retires every couple months. Yeah. That's fine. He said, yes, I'm aware of the mystery. I'm back. I don't even know what that means, DT.

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I know, but that's why he doesn't have a phone, dude.

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After a very long retirement, I'm considering the role of fish godfather for Scott. Thanks, but no thanks, I'd say. We like you, but I don't think—I don't speak for Zach here, but personally, I don't feel comfortable. Well, Spongebasket is his— His godfather, yeah. So it's a no, and don't keep asking.

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And maybe if you were a little bit more present, Dark Toaster, maybe we would be a little bit more receptive to that. Because he needs somebody that's here for him. And that's the best thing for Scott. Love you, Scott. We got you, man. If the Brad Baskett brothers allow, we don't allow. Quick question for y'all. Would you trade Jokic for a 10-year Rockies dynasty? You wouldn't. 10-year dynasty?

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Yeah, and that's why we're doing this right now. We don't just sip on it. Because you just did one. I'm going to say, I'm going to put my million on you getting it. Thank you, man. On your mark, get set. Yeah, ready? Set.

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And we won our ring. We won our ring. What does that mean? Let's say the Warriors dynasty for the 10 years. But they were like a five-year dynasty. But they won one three years ago or something, didn't they? Yeah, yeah. I feel like their real dynasty was five years. But let's say ten years like the Warriors' five years. So like 10 years of what the Warriors were. No, I wouldn't do that.

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And then were you at his game yesterday or no?

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We got our ring, man. No, I guess maybe you would. Would you? I don't know. I don't know, man. Do we have a chance? If I don't take the deal, is it just whatever's already going to... It's just the Rockies stay as they are? And just whatever's going to happen happens? We might turn around next year. Well, we look good now. Yeah, we've won four games now, by the way. We're four and like 19.

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He said, I know I had a terrible game today. I missed a couple of game-clinching tackles that led us to the loss, but I was wondering if I could swim over to Trevor's to play some video games. So that's why he was out last night, by the way. He was at Trevor's. No, absolutely not. I know, absolutely f***ing not.

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Let's go. We're winning in Denver, man. We're winning games. We're winning again. Yeah, we're winning again. So you're going to say no. I'm probably going to say no. Oh, promised at least three World Series rings. Fuck. Three World Series rings in 10 years? I'm a no. I'm a firm no.

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I'll think about it. He said, on another hand, would you erase the Rockies team as a whole forever if Jokic becomes a go-to basketball? I think he's going to become a go-to basketball. So you would just let him play it out? Yeah, I think I would let him play it out. Top five. Would you erase the Rockies team for $10 million? Just like in my pocket? Yes. And there's now 29 teams in the MLB.

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I mean, I don't know any of them. Like, I don't know shit. Yeah, but it's a cool, like, you would be sad if, like, the 10 mil and they're just, like, we just don't have a baseball team in Colorado. And they didn't move anywhere. They never existed. And those guys just got to, like, go find something else. They just go work. And everybody that's in the farm system. I'm not going to do it.

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I wouldn't feel good about it. Would you do it? Yes. Okay. For 10 mil? Yeah, it doesn't affect you. Yeah, I mean, that would be cool. I mean, I don't know. Great to be back as the goat himself. Keep your mother fluff and bread toasted. Okay. All right. Thanks, DT. This one comes from Robbie Simons. What's up, Robbie Simons?

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Personally? That's where I draw the line. I draw the line. they hold on they have to pay i know i know man i know they have to pay you 4k 4k is two but that's not i don't judge you for you you know you're 10 50 and that's you you know that's you yeah i'm 4 000 it's a lot i know it's a lot for that but but i'm just saying like they have to pay me Yeah, but it's a lot for what they're asking.

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Then he said, also, what's the name of that mermaid he spoke about on the pod asking for Trevor, not me, of course. So now he's talking to girl fish. All this stuff is going on.

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I know. I'm just saying, like, if I... I just don't think that deal closes because of what, like... Somebody has to pay you $10.50. Someone has to pay me $4K. We're not talking about, does the deal close? Does the deal not close? We're just talking about brass tacks here. I know, but what they're paying... This is economics. But what are they paying you for? I don't think that's worth $4K.

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They have to pay you for that. Yeah, but the economics. Yeah, I guess... That was a good point. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. If the economics of... That's a good point. Right. Because you said... Say it again? So when the... Economics. See, now it's... Yeah, that's making sense. Is it clicking now? Now it's... Does it click now? Yeah.

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So what... So now does that change your answer a little bit? Because your thing was for the economics. Economically. I think when you put it like that, I'm probably 3 to 4K. That's what I'm saying. Thank you. Because you were taking into account the economics. Yeah, I got you. I got you. That makes sense.

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Yeah, pickles are dope. No, I love jalapenos. I don't love pickles. Oh, come on. I'm not in love with pickles. Oh, come on. No, I fuck with pickles. You love pickles. I'm not in love with pickles, no. Would you reach into a jar and eat a pickle, man? 100%. You love 100%. You love them. You two love each other. Yeah. Come on. But I don't know if it's reciprocated. That's not the conversation.

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It's do you love pickles? Yeah, I'm in love. Great. What was the question? I'm just thinking about pickles now. Yeah. Oh, the LeBron thing.

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lebron switch bodies who wins so lebron in my body me and lebron's body i think it's got to be for i think it's us and lebron's body right absolutely it's just too much size it's just yeah and and also like i would feel bad for lebron in my body because you'd be like it's not fucking working no yeah i don't i'm not fucking it's also like what do you do it's tough though because what does that mean i think it's like lebron with your skills or you with lebron skills

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But then that's, what does that even mean? So my meant, so it's mental. No, it's like LeBron becomes. Oh, so LeBron's like physical attributes.

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So like you're LeBron. Yeah. But he shoots as good as you would shoot. But it's like, or it's like LeBron's you and, and you. So I'm just six. Now I'm just six, nine. Yes. And two 50. And what am I as fast as LeBron? Yes. But my basketball skills, it's still gotta be that. Yeah. Because we play basketball. Right. Right. It has to be that.

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That would be interesting. That would be the interesting question is like a four-foot-eleven girl that doesn't play basketball. Yeah, yeah. But she's 6'8". She's 6'9", 250.

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It just doesn't have the goods physical. Exactly. That would be the good match.

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or watermelon uh i mean i think if we're denver mellow i'd probably give it to i think he was do you think he was better on the nuggets yeah i got new york or new york i got watermelon oh really yeah watermelon is like prime d rose yeah and then mellow like i liked mellow like right before he left for new york on the nuggets i think that mellow beats watermelon i think new york mellow because watermelon could shoot yeah that's true no that is just new york mellow

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No, exactly. That's what I'm saying.

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Yeah, and it's a great fruit. Yeah, I got New York Mellow. You think it's close? No, New York Mellow in four. Wow, okay. I have Watermelon in seven. Oh, wow. Yeah, but Nuggets Mellow, I'd probably go Mellow in six. That's fair.

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Wow, good for you, man. Yes. That was well done, man. Did you notice? I didn't. And you know what? Dude, was the other thing like a decoy? Yeah, you got to slip those in there. That's smart, man. Takes your guard down. What was the word that you were doing?

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uh qualms so qualms was like to throw me off exactly qualms i had to throw qualms out there and qualms is a great kid fuck man yeah it's a good word like he's gonna be like oh you're just using me as a substitute word no no i'm gonna keep using you qualms i'm gonna keep using you but i just think i feel like you're successful right i think you're two for three i think there was flamboyant you missed on i did i got you i did which i'm shocked about honestly

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That's like a normal word. Prime D Rose is not something you should ever bring up. And you weren't even mixing them in that well. I wasn't. I wasn't. That last one was so forced. Yeah. Good for you. We got Andre Rivera. Hey, guys. It's me again talking about my daughter, Mermaid. Hey. We live close to you, and Mermaid said she would swim upstream to your place.

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My question is if Scott would be down to see Mermaid. What is this, some arranged fucking marriage? Andre, ease up. Her trip will start tomorrow, and she might get there in a few years. We live near New Ulm, Minnesota.

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shit i mean piss off dude this is like our this is like i guess like maybe if you i don't know how you do that with mermaid like with your daughter like there's none of our beeswax but like what we do with scott is is not that andre like that like that is what arrange what are you what are they gonna do what yeah what the f you mean by that net net tank and chill yeah like what the f dude what are you talking about you think you think we allow him to just have any mermaid in that taco

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Do you ever wish we had Trevor? That's fucked. No, come on, man. My bad, my bad. Really? Do you ever look at Trevor and be like, maybe, or like a little jealous of his parents? I mean, this guy, this guy... He's just having troubles, man. That's all. And he'll get over it. But he's hanging in there and we love our fish. Yes.

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Yeah. The fuck, man? The fuck, man. This is our son. It's also like he has...

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school every day not that we give a shit about school he has football and then he has uh strength and conditioning training that we're putting him in separately and then he has a second he does cardio and then uh lifting after that he's been picking up shifts at petco yep yep because he needs to pay his own way and we that's a lesson that we've been taking very seriously exactly yes he pays for his shit you want it you buy it you pay for it and and you know plug his ears

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He has a trust fund, so it's not going to matter. Yeah. It's not going to matter, but we don't want him to feel like he has a trust fund. You know what I mean? Exactly. Whatever the fuck is going on over there with this, that situation doesn't feel like what we have going on. Yeah. Short answer for you, man. No. Absolutely not. James has a question for Scott.

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It's just like a star bench cut, like really standard. Star bench cut, Mario Kart. We have Waluigi, Toad, and Yoshi. Tell him to lay off the Benjamin. It's not helping.

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Yeah, I mean, we keep taking away his guts. I don't know where he's getting them. I think he's hiding it in the rocks. Maybe, because when we find him, we pull him away from him. Start bench got Waluigi, Toad, Yoshi. So he's starting Toad. I think that's supposed to be funny. I don't know. I think he's trying to, like, rebel or some shit. Bench, Yoshi. The fuck? Cut wallow. That's really bad.

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I think he's trolling, actually. Which is fine. I mean, this fish has a personality. Yeah, he's got a sense of humor.

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We got BVV here. It's a funny question, man. BVV. BVV. He said, if you knew Mandarin fluently, but only for the next 10 minutes, what would you do in those 10? I would make... So you know Mandarin. Yeah, I think you've got to film content. I know exactly what I would do. I think you have to film Mandarin content. I would just film my cup game for tomorrow in Mandarin. Yeah, that's a great idea.

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And that would just be it. Yeah, probably that. I would probably cover a Drake record, but Mandarin. Yeah, that would be cool. I would call Parker up and be like, you need to record my vocals right now.

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yeah you just you need to yeah and it's just like because you can't communicate with anybody yeah you can oh yeah so if you knew but you know I don't think that means you don't know English if you knew Mandarin fluently but only for the next 10 minutes so you could still do English

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yeah but yeah i guess but i'm just saying it's like no you're not gonna go up and like i just have a mandarin conversation so you just yeah oh that's what you're saying yeah so you would just film your cup game yeah that's i mean it would be good it would it would be like giving people a comment i don't know if i'm not probably not they'll just be like like like zach's hat looks different 960 needs to yeah stop playing defense yeah yeah yeah we got jr lewin here he said did you hear about the hot dog they didn't reach an agreement bond and sausage

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Bun and sausage? They didn't reach an agreement.

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So he said, as you all know, the bun and sausage could not come up with an agreement as they did not have enough cap space to keep bun. Sausage just let bun go. So he said, which of the following deals should bun take? So bun's got to go.

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I know he's fucked. He's fucked. He said he can return to sausage for a dollar a year because they just don't have money. They said bun, and this is bun. Bun can play with pasta overseas. What? What are you going to do with Costa? For $50 a year. That's carb on carb, man. He can retire or he can join Taco. But what are you going to do with Taco? They already have a show.

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By the way, Taco is going to pay $100 a year. Which, by the way, the Buns get paid $100 for Bun salaries a lot.

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But do you think... I don't know what it is. It's carb-on-carb situations. Are they saying that they're going to send Shell away? I don't think they will. And Bun's going to just use meat? Do you use taco meat in Bun? I don't think so. I think he's just going to be a reserve. I think he'll just be on practice squad for taco or pasta. I mean, I guess learn from taco. That's probably my advice.

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Get, get paid and learn from taco to just be the next shell.

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Yeah. Yeah. Just learn, learn under shell. Yeah. Yeah. And if, listen, if it's not, if it's not taco, you end up playing for it somewhere. It'd be a great carb. Yeah, exactly. You know, it's crazy. Sausage could play with pasta. Sausage could play with taco. Facts. But Bun's the one that's getting sent out. Bun, yeah. I'm surprised they're not keeping Bun.

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I don't know who they'd play with Bun, though. It's a really tough spot. I would say either retire or play with Taco. Okay, and just learn from Taco. I would say retire. I think if you're not doing the sausage thing, you're done. I think you're done. I agree. We got Jack here.

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He said, Zach, Danny, and Scott, would you rather sign a 10-day contract for the Nuggets or a one-year contract on the Wizards? You stay at your current basketball skill level and we'll probably only play in garbage time unless the team tanks because I don't think we're good enough. He said, I love Jokic, but go Clippers. Is Jack a Clippers fan? No.

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Or maybe he's like an OKC fan and he wants Clips to win for that. Because you're not just a Clippers fan. There's no Clippers fans. I bet there's a different motive. There's no way he's just a Clippers fan. That wouldn't make sense. Maybe he's a Lakers fan. Yeah. I don't know who I want to win if I'm going to play the Nuggets or Clippers.

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I probably want the Clippers to win because they're the Clippers. And Jim is not going to win. No. And also, dude, at the end of the day, the reason I guarantee you we win this series is because we're the Nuggets and they're the Clippers. Yeah, I can see that. That's a good point, actually. We haven't made that point yet. That's a good point. The Clippers don't win. They do not win.

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They do not win. How far did the Lob City team go? Conference Finals, maybe? I don't even think they went to the Conference Finals. They don't win. Those teams don't win.

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The team, the players, they could have fucking... They could have the Celtics roster. They're still not going to win. They're not. Because it's the Clippers. They're not allowed to win. It's just, yeah. I think I'd sign a year with the Wizards. I'd just do the NBA lifestyle for a full year. Also, like... Yeah, me too. I'm just going to be in the NBA. I'm going to go out to clubs on the road.

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The fun thing about the NBA, dude, is like... You just fly private everywhere. Yeah, you fly private. Play basketball. Yeah, hang out. And you'd just be the worst player in the NBA. We'd be terrible. We'd definitely get like f***ed on Twitter too and stuff. They'd like post a lot of shit. They'd post shit about Bronny. Think about us. Oh, man.

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Yeah, we'd have to like lean into it.

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But you know what? It would be a year we never forget. Oh, for sure. I'll tell you that much. For sure. Yeah. And 10 days too short. So you've got to go with the year. All right. We can wrap with this. We got Nico Dosa or Dasa. He said, breaking news. Pencil wants to be separated from eraser. Come on. Come on with these splits, man. I know. It's just egos. These guys have egos.

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I have, I've developed a pimple. Oh, and he's covering up. Yeah. Yeah. It's awesome.

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Pencil's done with Eraser getting rid of all his work. He's helping you, though. Yeah, but he's... He's not just getting... That doesn't tell the story. You f***ed up, Pencil. He's fixing your mistakes, dick. Pencil's done. He said Eraser is devastated thinking they're nothing without Pencil. Oh, I agree. Two things can be true. Two things can be true. Pencil's just going to be a pen now, though.

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Oh, come on. Well, no, that's not, I'm just saying. Oh, oh, oh. I'm just saying pencil without eraser is a lead pen. Yeah, you're just like a weak pen. Yeah, he'll go extinct is what he'll do. Yeah. They need each other, actually. For sure. They need each other. Eraser, I guess he could do a solo thing. I don't know. Well, there's no eraser without pencil.

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That's why they say a beard is makeup for a man. I'm sure you've seen that.

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We lead with blood. They just need to figure it out. Yeah. They need to come back to it. We need pencil to figure it out.

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Because we're using you, man. We're riding with you, man.

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And that's probably like the... It's like what Bryce and Taylor did. Exactly. Now it seems like they're just like... I feel like if you fight someone, you just become friends. Yeah, and that's what pencil and eraser need to do. Fight it out. Fight it out. Take a page out of their book.

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And then just like this together. Yeah, exactly. Pencil and eraser. And you're all good.

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And did you get it covered up? Was it covered up when you got it? I just, I had to get covered and he covered up for you.

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Just pull up with a beard. Beard up. It's like the solution. Yeah. You could, you could hide the whole cheek. Yeah. Like honestly, like a very good solution. Like Jim Harden could have anything. Nobody, Jim Harden doesn't know what Jim Harden looks like. Jim Harden. Yeah. That's yeah. By the way, your beard's too long.

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But I almost think, like, he... It's too long. But at this point, he's like, I'm the beard guy. This is my... Like, I can't... Like, sometimes I'm like, I want to not wear a hat on a... But you have to. No, because around the crib all the time, I'm not wearing it. And it's like, I have normal hair. It's not like I'm bald or anything. It cuts every week. Yeah, you too, even.

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But I'm like, I don't want to just... Every comment's going to be like, hair reveal. Jim might just be like, I don't want to do the beard thing today.

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We're not people that have to wear hats. But... It's what we do. It's the brand. It's just, it's what we do. It's the brand. You have to do it. A hundred percent. That is true. I don't like, why'd you even? Why? How'd it get there? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And how has it stayed there for 20 years? And what do you, do you like shampoo that thing? I think you have to.

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I think it treats it like a fucking head, man, of hair. Pause. Pause. Is there shit living in there? I would think so. I think they're like, are there neighborhoods in Colesack? Scott could live in there.

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But the right beard is okay, right? For daycare? No? Yes, but I'm not... Okay, okay, okay. We don't fucking... We're not gonna fucking send Scott to Jim Harden's beard. Okay, okay, okay. But the right beard, we can send him to daycare. We're fucking busy, dude. Don't even joke about sending Scott to Jim Harden's beard. Okay, get it. Lighten up.

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You know how fucking uptight you are as a father to this fish? I care.

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Okay, it's a joke. Not funny. It's a joke. Well, it wasn't funny, man. You made a joke about sending him to Santa's beard and you thought that was funny.

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Did you run out of steam? Like, I'm not doing this? You just missed short.

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Yeah, maybe Charlie Blackman's beard could be good too.

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Yeah. There's like girl and guy fish in there. Yeah.

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It gets freaky. Exactly. I think he has a club in there. Strip club in his beard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, that is it's it's a shout out to your beard. Thank you. Good for him. Yeah. Covering up. I got I got an MVB most valuable beard.

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It's a little bit concerning. What's going on? Maybe he's getting nervous on the camera.

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Because we did tell him, we told him, can you be a little more active on the... That's what he's doing. Yeah, that's what he's doing. You can chill, buddy.

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Yeah. Most valuable bean. I think you can probably get it pretty quick here. The bean bag. No.

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Yeah, I'm telling you right now, Zach, that Starburst jelly bean is a top five f***ing candy out. Do you know how gifted that... We should run a bowl year-round. I'm running a bowl upstairs right now. I think the bowl should be run year-round. I think we need to squash this narrative of Easter for him. Make him a global, worldwide thing. I think this guy can win an all-candy tournament.

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Did you hear what I said? All-candy tournament. I heard it. He can hoop. He can play. He can play, man. No, I heard you, man. Yeah, and what do you think? I'll stop there. What's your reaction to that? That's a dad line. I'll stop there. That's a dad line. Yeah. I have no qualms with that. Good word. I really don't. I think that that is... I don't think he's missing anything.

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He's prime Derrick Rose. He is, dude. You know what I'm saying? He really is. That jelly belly can do it all. Everything. Yeah. He can go left.

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I have no qualms with that. Somebody put you on to it. No, nobody put me on to that. Nothing? No, nobody put me on to that. I already complimented him the first time. So I was like, he's trying to get three in. No, I just, that's the, like, sometimes you say what you mean and you mean what you say. Yes, you're like, that's what I want to say.

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And by the way, the people that listen to this pod, like, they'll walk away being like, Zach had no qualms with the jelly bean thing because you made it very clear. You need to chill. I know.

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Maybe he's running sprints. I don't know. Oh. Is he running?

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Dude, I've been wearing their stuff every day. Not a brand deal. They just sent us stuff. Love it. Great stuff.

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Keep going, man. Keep going, man. Should we... I don't know.

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What? Sometimes I'm like, maybe we should take him to the ocean and see what happens. Are you f***ing kidding me?

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On a leash. Do you know what happens in the ocean? Those loose... Are you kidding me?

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sometimes i don't know he's trying to run sprints sometimes i'm like why did we have a fish together okay okay that's fucked up in the ocean i'll let you take that back god it's a death i'll give you five seconds to take that i'm sorry i'm sorry i was heated i was heated he really is going back and forth uh lv i didn't have one i'll just give it i guess like least valuable loss tough loss yesterday for the nuggets really evenly matched uh teams i think we went in six

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But that's what I'm saying. Like, we wasted a Yolk triple-double. Yes. You know what I mean? It's like, ah, it's just a waste. It's like, I wish we just sat Yolk yesterday. Yeah. If we were going to lose. That's kind of the whole thing with the playoffs, so... Exactly. Positive. MPJ looked great. MPJ looked very good. Also... What a pro. So, it wasn't an injury thing the day before.

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Remember, like... But the announcer was saying something like, let's watch MPJ because he got pulled last game. It might have been like an injury thing. Late in the game, it was an injury. Late in the game, it was an injury. He had a shoulder thing going on. I think he's fine. And I think if game one were an injury thing, we would have known. So it probably wasn't. He just went with Russ.

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I heard something being like... But maybe he was just, like, watch... He was, like, watch the body language of MPJ. I think he was just saying make sure he's not, like, upset with the coach. Yeah. Yeah, I think... He looked great. What a pro, by the way. Me personally, I'm sulking. Yeah, and if I'm MPJ, like, in a way, he's, like, the most gifted player on the court in a weird way. For sure.

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You know what I mean? So I'm like, how dare you f***ing pull me? I mean, I'm seeing the last play of regulation in game one and saying, what are you doing? Yeah, but I think that's why I really hope we keep MPJ. I think he's such a—he just molds with the team. It all depends on what happens in these next couple weeks. For sure. But I feel like he's such a non-cancer, wouldn't you say?

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Oh, I think he's— For as good as he is. I think he's fantastic. The only reason we would give him up is because he's getting— A gazillion dollars a year. Yeah.

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But it's not even a bad play by us because we won a ring with him. But it is. We just didn't need to give him the max. He would have taken the 20 mil. He would have absolutely taken the 20 mil.

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But it was a statement on our end, and maybe that's why he's so bought in.

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I feel like that's just losing. I know it's using it, but like, again, I just take the rest of the pot off of it. I think I want to, I just, I know that word. No, it's a good word. And it sounds good on you, man. Yeah. Bruce Brown's coming back to Denver. Oh, so we're just doing news. Okay. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We're just talking nuggets. It's like the guy's sitting courtside.

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We could just do nuggets. No, it's just like this. Yeah. He's, I mean, he's sitting courtside and he's dapping everybody up. He's by the way, he's not on a team. You're actively on the Pelicans right now. Yeah, that is crazy. Actually, I think he's a free agent. So he's definitely coming back. He's leaving the Pels. Danny, he might play for free. We should pick him up right now.

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Oh, and you're like, I need to get out of here.

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So he went Pacers, then Pels? Pacers, Raptors, Pels. This hasn't worked out. He's been injured. He was like, grass might be greener, and now he misses us. I think he got...

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I wonder what the fuck... What do you mean? Because I wonder if I go through it. I've... Like, I'll try to search somebody up. Like, today, I tried to search up... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I'm so pissed at myself. Look at this kid's super shirt.

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Yes. And you're not showing me Shannon... 100%. Do you remember yesterday when I was typing in that guy, and it was like a re-blocked? That's what I'm saying. It's like... Scotty Flippin just couldn't find him. Yeah, I think it's got to be a glitch or something. I don't know.

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You think it's a glitch? Yeah, because sometimes you close out and then you type it and it pops up. It's a bad glitch. It's whack. How many people probably think they've been blocked?

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Yeah. That's why I said that to you yesterday about the guy. Yeah. But I'm like, that's just like, I don't, I, I think that is a good L that's a true LV. It's happening. And I, I feel for the people that think they're blocked by people, dude. It's like, I literally, or I'm saying like, are they shadow banning? Are there like, I don't want people to see what this guy's talking about.

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But it wouldn't make sense with the one I was searching. Yeah, I don't know. And also Flippin. Yeah, well, Flippin. That would make sense. He DMed Sarah today. He said, can you take another pic of my tank because I want to post it.

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Shallow, man. Wow. Snake into Rook. Rookie. Oh, I mean, listen, we all know him. We all love him. Tic Tacs. Oh, yeah. I actually, dude, Sarah and I did a Tic Tac thing the past couple weeks too. Flavored? Just like the mint guys. Do you do the Colorfuls? Yeah. Yeah, they're so fun. They're so fun. They're so fun, man. They're so neat.

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What do we got today? MVLV Rook Confesh? Yes. A little Nuggets recap. Yeah, Nuggets recap stat questions.

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And what's so neat about them is like, yeah, I know there's sugar. And like if I have a full box, that's probably a good amount of sugar. Are you on a box a day again? No, I actually just got them when I got those Guinnesses for that video. They sold you at the front? Yeah, I just saw them and I was like, I'm just going to fucking eat. All right, just careful. I know.

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And we don't have like, you know, we're just being ourselves. And I couldn't find anywhere in left wing media where that was like the point. It exists like people are being themselves, but there's nothing that was made to go like, hey, Let's just have an honest dialogue with no filter in it. That's a huge problem for the left and it needs to be solved.

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Yeah, I was a Republican for almost all my 20s.

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And I think like we can't solve it on our own, but we can contribute to trying to start to solve it. So like my intent was let's get a bunch of very opinionated guys together and not hold back. And that's kind of what this is hopefully going to be.

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yes i'm the dick cheney of the find out podcast for sure no i mean i like i have perspectives that go all across the place but i i think you know look the thing that i think is so simple for republicans is that their message is simple right and that's what makes it easy for them to coordinate all this stuff is that like they prey on people's inability to see a bigger picture and i think that's a lot of why all of us got so successful is we're able to simplify what is you know

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already like an oversimplified narrative. We're able to simplify why they're wrong. And, you know, I think if the Harris campaign had done a better job of doing that, they probably would have won. But, you know, I think we have become successful because we tell an easy story. And that's exactly what the right does. And easy story is just inherently more entertaining.

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And that's why the right is doing so well with this stuff.

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That's all they are. That's all they are. All they do is complain. Like I watch any Trump speech. It's 90 percent complaining. It's like, how can this be the guy they like? All he does is bitch and moan. It's so like I watched his speech to the DOJ yesterday where he said that CNN and MSNBC are illegal.

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And I spent 10 minutes just being like, how could anybody watch this and be like, yeah, I dig this guy. Like this guy is, he's stupid. Like it's, it's, he actually is like, it's hard to watch him talk, but people dig him. And I, it's still like, I think he's changed too, which is interesting. Cause like back in 2016, I would watch him and be like, he's funny.

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Yeah. He was always stupid, but he was so like entertaining back then when he wasn't as old that it was like, You know, he masked it and now he's too old to mask it. He just comes off like, what are you talking about? You're not you're not interesting. You're not funny. You're just like angry now. And the angry version of Trump is just not it's it's it's so much worse.

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is important they don't give a shit about policy though that's the thing like they don't they don't give a fuck about policy they care like it's all about the presentation of what trump is putting forward and they like the presentation of like this is wrong i'm gonna fix it the end like that's what they like they don't give a shit about the details at all because when you show it to them they're like that's not true yeah it is that's why we need a million more lukes right we do well that's a funny thing that chris was talking about like the rage thing

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Yeah. And it's who you're aiming at. Right. Because like there is a group like Trump is successful because he activated a group of people that didn't ever vote and didn't give a shit about politics at all. And it was this like disaffected group of America that was just like politicians don't talk to me, so I don't care. And then Trump showed up and they went, oh, I like this guy.

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So they have no context for liking anybody else or going in either direction anyway. So I feel like that group is just unreachable. Like I think they're going to they're going to live and die with Trump because Trump is the one who brought them to the party. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can't. They're just in the rabbit hole and they're going to probably live and die in the rabbit hole.

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But there's definitely a chunk of people in this country who are either misinformed and able to be informed correctly or just like not interested because of the vitriol, the whole thing. And it's like, OK, that's fine. But in the end, you're not participating results in things like Donald Trump being reelected. So maybe rethink that approach to things.

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Right. That's that's it. Look, there's a lot of reasons people didn't vote. But that's one that I think, you know, is those people. Right. It's going to be a huge problem down the line. But then again, I don't think like I think a woman could easily win the presidency. I think that Kamala Harris was just faced with such a horrible set of circumstances being in that position.

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Like Joe Biden really fucked us over. I mean, him just deciding to run again. Twenty three was like the death knell for this election. So I don't think you could have put anybody in front of Trump. And I think you would have bulldozed through him anyway, just because of the circumstances. So, like, I do think being a woman is a detriment running for president at this point.

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But I don't think it's like a thing that can't be overcome. Even if you reran the election without Trump, I think a woman could win.

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So, geez, man, that's a bummer. The what was I going to say? Oh, yeah. So the challenge, even going back to then Obama's first term. Obama had the possibility of just jamming the shit down everybody's throat and just doing exactly what he wanted, and he didn't do it.

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And I think that's a segue into what we're going to talk about with the Democrats here is because Democrats don't have the teeth that Republicans have. Obama could have pushed all the way to Medicare for all if he wanted to. He didn't. I don't think he wanted to. But he had to meet very much in the middle, and that shellacked him. I mean, that's exactly – he just – he said, you know what?

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I'm going to compromise. At this point, the one good thing Trump has done for the Democratic Party is letting them know compromise is not valuable. Attacking when you have the power is valuable, and that's something Democrats never learned. And now I think they finally are at least getting the picture of, like, we are not in a compromise position at this point.

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We are in the position of once we get power back, when Trump inevitably fucks up the entire country and he can't win the midterm, it's going to be like...

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there this is what you should have done the whole time although i have probably little faith in democrats so maybe it won't happen that way but i totally blame pelosi and schumer for all of the moderation of barack obama yeah i think you're right on that i i think you know they they have this sort of worrisome approach to everything and look sometimes it's valuable like well i think with the cr vote i think it was valuable in this moment but i think there's moments where you have all the tools to make substantial change and you go i'll compromise for the sake of just not getting yelled at like

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That's kind of what they did.

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Yeah, well, it's also like to me, just to end that, but I think it's a leadership style thing as well, right? Like the Trump is just kind of being like, I'm the dictator of the Republican Party. You're going to do exactly what I say. This is what we're doing. And not to say that I think Democrats should mirror that exactly.

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But Obama had a position at that point in time where he could have been like, I don't give a shit what you think. You're voting this way or I'm going to fuck you over. And like that, I think as much as I don't love that approach all the time in these big moments, sack up and say that shit. It's enough.

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Like Obama should have gone to all those senators who could get to that 60 and been like, I don't give a shit if you have reservations. I'm going to torch your ass if you don't go for this, because it's the most important thing we're going after right now. Shouldn't be doing it all the time like Trump does for like any little petty grievance. But for big shit, Democrats got to sack up.

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They're buddies. I mean, they're like, he, he has like the Trump unlock tool. I don't know what the hell he's got, but, but he's, I think that's true.

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He's the richest man in the world.

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It was terrible. That I can agree on. I mean, I'm probably, maybe Chris will agree with me on this one too, but I'm one of the people who looked at this and said, I think it's actually a good idea to vote to keep the government open. I mean, so I look at it like this. I'll zoom out for a second.

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The Republicans faced almost an identical scenario back in, I think it was December, whatever the hell it was, near the end of Joe Biden's term. Same thing. CR had to keep the government open, you know, had a bill in front of them they didn't like. And they, yeah, they negotiated a little better than Democrats did.

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But in the end, they pretty much capitulated to the original bill and just signed it because Republicans are strategists. Democrats are not strategists. Democrats are policy wonks. That's the difference. Like Democrats get into the weeds. They understand how to functionally make the government work better than Republicans do. Republicans know how to win.

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And the reason Republicans didn't use that moment to obstruct everything, it was it was a loser approach for them. It was going to make everybody pissed at them. So the same thing would have happened here. And I just don't like for me, I weigh the risks and the benefits. Right.

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The risk of having the Democrats be the ones who shut down the government right now to obstruct obstruct Trump and have a protest vote. is that it hands Republicans an insane amount of ammunition to be like, Democrats fucked up the government. They shut it down.

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Everything that's happening here, inflation, egg prices, it all can be tied back to Democrats because, you know, Trump will use that attack line. The federal workers firing element with Doge. Now it's like, hey, Democrats sent them all home. You're handing them a huge arsenal of negative shit to say. And what are you getting in return? A little fuck you to them.

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Like I refer to one of my sub stack things is like Democrats want a bar fight right now. And a bar fight is no good for anybody because when you wake up in the morning, you got a bruised up face and you got a hangover. Nobody won. You had a nice little moment. Democrats have to understand the time to fight. I agree. The messaging of what they're going to do could have been way better.

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And yeah, maybe they could have negotiated a little bit harder to try to, like, adjust a couple of things. But. There was nothing in this bill that was like, oh, my God, we can't possibly have this. Like Social Security is not getting cut. Medicare is not getting cut. There are bad things in there.

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But these are the Republican agenda items that are going to be here, whether you shut down the government for a week or not. So it's just not a hell. There was nothing in it. There was like strategically this makes sense long term. It doesn't. It makes it just gives Republicans ammunition to keep going forward and attacking and attacking and attacking.

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We need to let their shitty policies fall apart in front of us and go, look, this Look how shitty they are. And in 2026, we'll fucking roll them because they just can't stand up to the criticism of how badly they handled things. That is what Democrats need to aim on. I know a lot of Democrats hate that message because it feels weak and impatient and all this shit. It's the right strategy.

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It's a question of consistency.

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I don't disagree with you that Republicans hear what I have to say and they go, oh, cool, that sounds great. Because the difference now, I think, is that Republicans are being very short-sighted as opposed to the past where they were very long on what they're trying to do because they were in a position and they were behind Democrats in terms of where the country was going.

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Now they feel like they've won everything and they've got the presidency, they got Congress, they got everything. So they're sitting back and just like kind of eating it up. And they're not thinking they're not realizing that all of these bad decisions are going to compound. And over time, it's going to fuck them really hard because they're making these policies that they can't.

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But my pushback to that pushback is I don't see a path where Democrats aren't going to have a chance to take the power back. It just doesn't exist to me. I know that there are people out there who worry that Trump is going to fundamentally restructure government to the point where we can't even have elections. I don't think we're going to get anywhere near that territory.

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Yes, are we going to give Trump an insane amount of power compared to past presidents? Sure. Sure. But to me, I look at that and go, I look at Trump's policies and what he wants to do. And I go, good. Let him prove how bad he is. We need to at this point because Democrats have been theoretical arguers forever.

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That's how they're gonna pull it off because they're going to get more and more people to say screw it I'm not even gonna vote because I can't vote for a Democratic Party that won't fight but here's the thing though in the end the the the thing that drives voters are fundamental things that Trump is already fucking up like the economy and prices and he's making huge promises on all these things that he's not gonna be able to deliver on we know that and

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So I understand in the short term, it feels like all the momentum is with them and they're getting people to disengage and go to the Republican Party or just not get involved. But when Trump's promises are not fulfilled in 2026 and 2028 and people are still worse off or just as bad off as when they were pissed off at Democrats, they lose. They the burden is on them to execute.

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And there is no way they're going to execute.

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I don't think it's more complicated than that. But that's my point, as I was trying to make before, is that Democrats have spent all this time warning Republicans. This is where it's going to go. This is what's going to happen. Nobody listens to the warnings anymore. You have to see it for your own eyes. Catastrophe is what really creates change in this country.

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Unfortunately, I don't want it to be that way. But that's the reality where we're at.

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I just want to clarify one thing on my point just before we get to the end there. Everything Rich just said, if Democrats had presented it that way, I would have been all about it. That's the thing. The Democratic approach to strategy is non-existent.

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Like if they had gone, hey, we're going to hold this government hostage until you agree to X, Y and Z and show the American people why those things matter. I'm all about it. But they're nowhere near that because there's no coordination. The leadership doesn't exist. That's the way they should have played. It's exactly what Republicans did in the last CR.

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They came out and said, OK, you went too far here. You went too far there. And they like scraped away at some of the things Democrats tried to push in there. But the bill was largely the same. But they at least fought back. But Democrats didn't present that. So if they had, I would have a different perspective. But I just don't trust their leadership to do anything like that.

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I agree with Zach again.

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I got a four-year-old girl. She just turned four last week. It's scary having her in Trump's America, but, you know. While we wake up. Yeah. In the end, I have to have an escape hatch just in case. So I ended up getting this guy just in case we needed it.

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Sure. I mean, I actually made a TikTok to sell these guys on doing this. And I think it's an important thing because the biggest issue that I have right now looking at just left-wing media, right-wing media, right-wing media is killing us. And they're killing us because of, at least in my mind, perceived authenticity, right?

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They are not authentic people, but they come off as saying what's on their mind, right? And I looked at podcasts and pretty much everything the left does in social media and went, nobody's doing this. Nobody's doing this at all. And then we have a larger group chat, but six of us are in a group chat where we kind of just shoot the shit and talk like real human beings.

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It's true. I mean, I think we've all gotten, I don't know if all of us have gotten death threats. We've all gotten at least like aggressively yelled at by complete strangers. I get that every single day. I don't know if you guys get it every day, but like every single day I get a DM where like, holy shit, this guy really hates me.

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Well, long story short, we just found the Ramsey Show here about a week ago. Wow. Congratulations and welcome. Trying to get out of debt.

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And as we were sitting down and going through getting our debt listed, smallest to biggest, to start the baby steps, I had found some debt that life's been hiding from me over and over again. Credit cards, mainly. How much? Well, we have one maxed out credit card for about $1,000. And the biggest disappointment is it's actually maxed out on McDonald's.

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Because it was connected to her app, and we had gotten rid of, paid this credit card off twice since June. Thought we had gotten rid of it. She told me she had closed it out.

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No, I didn't say that. It was just, she works really early in the morning.

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And just stopping and getting Beth's burritos and stuff at the easier to buy. Play on the app, skip the line, head to work, and it just got out of control.

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No, I was aware of the card, but I thought it was closed out, but she just says that out of habit, being that it was still connected, you know, there was that line of credit there. She has very big problem with spending. Um, and recently because of this, we have, we sat down, we talked and we have decided that I am going to take over the financial side with bills and stuff.

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214.492

Normally she paid hers. I paid mine and I am taking over. And then we've got a budget set where we put money in savings. We can start hitting all this. And really we've got without mortgage 16,000 now with, uh, with that credit card, with our joint credit card, some medical bills, and a 401k loan.

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236.931

Combined income is about $1,900 biweekly. We each make about $44,000 a year. Okay.

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248.397

I'm a math and numbers guy.

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250.458

How can I go about this to include her, to help her... With taking over the finances, I want to be able to include her and hopefully maybe show her the numbers and the best way to go about it, taking on all the finances, but yet help her so she can eventually... Hopefully control money a lot better by yourself.

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331.225

Okay. Which means we have cut up all credit cards.

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338.43

Hers, yes. Mine, no. Not yet.

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344.495

Uh... Just haven't done it, I guess. It is definitely something I want to do. I want to get rid of it.

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378.527

Right now, the way I use my credit card, right or wrong, I mean, I have all my auto pays come off of it because, say, we're living paycheck to paycheck.

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And my goal is to have money in the account... so that we don't have to do that. Gotcha.

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1034.419

We were going to get about $15,000 in equity, and then my sister was also going to give a gift for a down payment as well to help us with that.

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1050.31

We were going to be using an FHA loan, but it was going to be roughly $12,000 to $15,000.

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650.257

So, I'll cut to the chase. Monday, I lost my house in a house fire.

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For at least four months. Yeah.

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It was contained to one room, thankfully, but we had a lot of stuff in that room that the room is completely gone. They have to completely gut it and reconstruct it, I guess.

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675.012

No. The dog was inside, but thankfully they got him out.

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686.784

It was our downstairs master bedroom. Oh, no. We were actually supposed to sell the house four days prior. Well, four days after the fire had happened. Oh, my gosh. But that's not happening anymore. So thankfully, like a lot of my stuff was packed up and ready to go. But like my wife's entire wardrobe, everything like our bed, our newborn son's bed and everything is. Oh, my gosh.

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716.617

I was an hour away at work and my wife was at work.

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729.049

Yes. My stepdad was driving by when it started to smoke really bad, so he caught it.

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740.39

It was one of the outlets by our bed. They're not exactly sure, but they think maybe a wire came loose and like touched the insulation or something or a mouse chewed on it.

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781.904

So we were planning on selling the house because my wife bought it before me and her were ever together, and it is a nightmare of a house. Foundation issues and everything else.

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Surviving the Money Storm Starts with Tough Choices

793.95

Yeah. So we were really wanting to get out of it. We were buying a new house closer to my parents, and it's a lot nicer house.

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809.597

Yeah, but we are doing a contingency buy. So we're probably going to lose that house now that we have to wait another four months. Um, we have just started the baby steps. We've got about $85,000 in consumer debt.

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825.782

Um, we don't have much savings, especially after the fire now. Um, and then what have you been doing?

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861.099

Uh, right now we've got, I want to say, well, she actually made an extra car payment. So we're waiting for that to come back, but we'll have about 13 in our account, but we have bills and everything. And I do a ton of driving for work. So I have to leave at least five to 600 in there for gas.

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885.817

Yeah, they're going to cover it, but they are kind of dragging their feet.

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922.937

Yes, I agree. I originally wanted to rent, but we live in a small town. And leaving the town is not an option for us because of my wife's work. And that's where our babysitting situation is located. And there is no...

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places to rent that wouldn't be the same amount as what our mortgage was going to be um that has the space for uh two kids us and a dog that allows dogs um there was one place that was available and we applied and we got denied because of our credit and then um And then it went off the market like a week later.

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1571.564

Doing good. My mom's played this show in the car since I was like eight, so it's ready to be a good place to go from here. I'm sorry. Well, it depends how old are you.

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So what's up, dude? Yeah, so my wife and I recently started kind of our quote-unquote big boy and big girl jobs out of college. And her job comes with our housing being paid for for the next year and a half to two years. And so in March, we're projected to be done paying off our student loans. We've kind of been attacking those for the last...

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nine months and so from march until whenever we move out of this place we're kind of just going to be raking in an income without a lot of expenses and so we were looking for ways to you know invest that smartly and save up for a home um but we're kind of new new to that whole realm so we're looking for some advice but you just told me you have a bunch of debt to pay off right

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Actually, not a bunch. We've done a lot of work on that in the last year. We started with about $60,000 in debt when we both graduated, and we're down to $13,000 left.

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1654.333

We're expected to be done with that by mid-March.

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1663.474

We already have a fully funded emergency fund. We kind of did the baby steps earlier.

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1688.332

Well, I don't think it's more optimal. We're in an optimal position where we're going to be debt-free and we don't know if we should invest just the 15% that's part of Baby Step 3, or if we should increase that while we're not paying for where we live. Like, should we be investing 25%, 30% because we don't have any other expenses? Well, don't you want a home one day? Absolutely not. We do, yeah.

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1741.258

I would call it a Christmas miracle.

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1747.003

In the emergency fund, about $5,000.

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1751.287

So it's not enough to knock it out.

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1760.802

Yeah, pretty much every time we have some extra money, we knock it down.