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Zach Dell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
901 total appearances

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And so we're not going to be able to collateralize that debt by cash on the balance sheet.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And so we'll have to go into more creative structures

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Where we're going long-term is almost certainly the securitization market.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Like I said, it's large, it's liquid, it's low cost.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And there's precedent for these kinds of assets being securitized.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

If you actually look at the models and understand the numbers, they're just cash flow streams.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And so if you have transparent and predictable operating history, we have almost 1,500 of these things in the ground.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

We're deploying 20 a day.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

That number's going to go to 50 a day over the course of the next couple of months.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

You can say, okay, well, dollars go out at this time and they come in at this time.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And there's a process by which you underwrite that and apply a risk premium to it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And then the lender has their cost of capital and we have the cost of capital of our equity.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

We think that we can access the lower cost of capital through debt.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And so we think that there's a path to scale this business in a really capital efficient way, leveraging the capital markets with some combination of asset-backed financing, tax capital, and of course, equity, which we raised to date.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

I started the conversation by saying we see ourselves as an energy technology company.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

This strategy of compounding cost advantage through vertical integration is defined by engineering.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

We are building the most efficient grid resource on the planet in the form of battery storage.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

We think there are equivalent engineering problems to solve that will create cost advantages with regards to residential solar, but also other products.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

like commercial batteries, commercial solar, EV charging at the home level, EV charging at the commercial level, things like electric heat pumps at the residential and the commercial level.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

As you mentioned, going downstream into the home and into the built environment.