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Zach Dell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
901 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

I think lithium is interesting.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

I think energy is interesting.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

There's an opportunity in battery storage.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

This is 2018.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And he's like, okay, yeah, sure.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

This is like not something the firm was super focused on.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

It was a project that was getting tossed around.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And long story short, when I came back full time the next year, the project had become real, basically.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

I became the analyst on the deal.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

If you're going to buy a lithium mine, you have to take a view on the price of lithium because you're going to own a lot of it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

I spent a couple of months trying to figure out what is lithium going to do?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

What's the price of lithium going to do over the next decade?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And in doing that, it just became obvious to me that battery storage was going to be this incredible source of growth, really for no reason other than the marginal cost of solar plus storage was just going to be lower than the marginal cost of coal and natural gas.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And so incremental capacity on the grid was going to largely be solar and storage.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And it was clear that we had really underbuilt storage.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

So we started looking at distributed storage platforms.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And after I left, Blackstone ended up buying IPA Power, which is one of the largest utility scale developers in the country.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Around that time, I kind of had this insight of these two constraints, the interconnection constraint and the transmission constraint that utility-scale storage faces.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Towards the end of my time at Blackstone, I was introduced to Kareem, who you've had on the pod, who's a partner at Thrive Capital.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Him and I hit it off, and he introduced me to Josh, and Josh introduced me to Vince, and Vince introduced me to Gaurav.