Zach Lowe

Like you need to find a way to add violence or physical contact or some, some sort of like higher stakes.

It just doesn't, it doesn't jive.

It's a mental man.

That's true.

That's true.

I'm not diminishing golf.

Golf is super hard and very frustrating.

And you have to really, really commit to it to get any good.

And you have to have mental stamina and physical stamina.

Like walking, if you walk 18 in the heat, it's not nothing like it's, it's,

Anyway, speaking of heat culture, I have heard that you and your dad, who is also an athlete, everyone in the Haka's family is an athlete, targeted the heat, said, we feel like we're a heat family.

We would fit the heat culture.

Is that true?

And like, what led you to believe that?

Here's a draft workout story I heard.

You go to Miami, you do your workout.

Normally there's like a nice spread of food for anyone who comes for the workout afterwards.

And the heat couldn't provide that because their lounge was like being renovated.

And they were like, we have this like brown bag with a sandwich in it.

And they were like apologetic.