Zach Smith

It's like pants used to be high waisted and it's not where we wear our pants.

So if you took a pair of traditional 32 trousers that measured 32 at the normal waistline where you're supposed to wear them down where we wear pants now, that measurement is not 32.

That is more like 33 and a half or 34.

And so it's actually accurate if it measures 34.

It isn't vanity sizing.

Sometimes it's just the design aesthetic.

I'll leave names out, but if I fit for like, we're a super cool streetwear brand, these are our 32.

I'm like, bro, this measures like 38.

And it's like, yeah, that's the look.

It's the look we want.

There is always design intent and there's always fit intent and fit is a spectrum.

Size even changes if the clothing is made of a thicker fabric.

The fabric got thicker and it's like you're losing circumference.

So it needs to measure 36 to fit like a 32 pant would normally fit.

What if they're stretched?

The pants might be sized down.

If they're stiff, they might be sized up.

It's the truth.

It's not an argument.

It's the truth that if you go into a store and you grab three of the exacts, they say that they're the exact same size.