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They would walk in or they would just bumble off the street or he'd see them fishing or their motors broke down and he'd bring them in and, you know, all from a meal. And he would be like, what's your story? And so he had a way of getting deep down into the souls of people, sharing their innermost secrets, usually from the sinful persuasion.

And then he would say, oh, I got some bad news and I got some good news. So when he started that sermon, I thought, Well, what was he preparing for? Because the whole sermon was the gospel presentation that he had given hundreds of times to people on the couch.

And then he would say, oh, I got some bad news and I got some good news. So when he started that sermon, I thought, Well, what was he preparing for? Because the whole sermon was the gospel presentation that he had given hundreds of times to people on the couch.

And then he would say, oh, I got some bad news and I got some good news. So when he started that sermon, I thought, Well, what was he preparing for? Because the whole sermon was the gospel presentation that he had given hundreds of times to people on the couch.

That's what made me think for the first time, because you know what it did? I didn't say this in my speech or the first time on the podcast when we shared about it. What he did for me was, was he connected what was going on at a church building to actual life? Because I didn't like church. He had started going to church, but I wasn't listening. They had some old preacher that had the,

That's what made me think for the first time, because you know what it did? I didn't say this in my speech or the first time on the podcast when we shared about it. What he did for me was, was he connected what was going on at a church building to actual life? Because I didn't like church. He had started going to church, but I wasn't listening. They had some old preacher that had the,

That's what made me think for the first time, because you know what it did? I didn't say this in my speech or the first time on the podcast when we shared about it. What he did for me was, was he connected what was going on at a church building to actual life? Because I didn't like church. He had started going to church, but I wasn't listening. They had some old preacher that had the,

what do you call it, the preacher tone. It's like when he started talking, I thought, it's impossible. He wouldn't say, he would say baptized. Well, it just, there was the lingo, you know, it was kind of an old kind of crusty church and people around there. And my dad didn't seem, you know, I mean, we sang, I'm sure the singing, I mean, it was 30, 40 people out there in the middle of nowhere.

what do you call it, the preacher tone. It's like when he started talking, I thought, it's impossible. He wouldn't say, he would say baptized. Well, it just, there was the lingo, you know, it was kind of an old kind of crusty church and people around there. And my dad didn't seem, you know, I mean, we sang, I'm sure the singing, I mean, it was 30, 40 people out there in the middle of nowhere.

what do you call it, the preacher tone. It's like when he started talking, I thought, it's impossible. He wouldn't say, he would say baptized. Well, it just, there was the lingo, you know, it was kind of an old kind of crusty church and people around there. And my dad didn't seem, you know, I mean, we sang, I'm sure the singing, I mean, it was 30, 40 people out there in the middle of nowhere.

but my dad was living for the Lord outside the church building. And I just always thought, what are we doing here? Because it just wasn't that exciting. I mean, they didn't have a kid's class. You're just kind of in there. And I was bewildered by it. It didn't seem real or authentic in any way. But what I was seeing, that did seem authentic.

but my dad was living for the Lord outside the church building. And I just always thought, what are we doing here? Because it just wasn't that exciting. I mean, they didn't have a kid's class. You're just kind of in there. And I was bewildered by it. It didn't seem real or authentic in any way. But what I was seeing, that did seem authentic.

but my dad was living for the Lord outside the church building. And I just always thought, what are we doing here? Because it just wasn't that exciting. I mean, they didn't have a kid's class. You're just kind of in there. And I was bewildered by it. It didn't seem real or authentic in any way. But what I was seeing, that did seem authentic.

I thought, these people are crying on the couch and they're He keeps baptizing people on the river. And it was just hard for me, you know, as a 14 year old to make that connection. So that's when I thought for the first time, I need to study my Bible, you know, because he's talking the same story. I was like, I just want to read this for myself.

I thought, these people are crying on the couch and they're He keeps baptizing people on the river. And it was just hard for me, you know, as a 14 year old to make that connection. So that's when I thought for the first time, I need to study my Bible, you know, because he's talking the same story. I was like, I just want to read this for myself.

I thought, these people are crying on the couch and they're He keeps baptizing people on the river. And it was just hard for me, you know, as a 14 year old to make that connection. So that's when I thought for the first time, I need to study my Bible, you know, because he's talking the same story. I was like, I just want to read this for myself.

But it was after that sermon that I thought, oh, there's a connection. That's the same God, but it didn't because it seemed so.

But it was after that sermon that I thought, oh, there's a connection. That's the same God, but it didn't because it seemed so.

But it was after that sermon that I thought, oh, there's a connection. That's the same God, but it didn't because it seemed so.

Yeah, and I think, you know, Al and I have documented this many times. You know, you respond differently. He was older. You know, I hid myself in self-righteousness. That was really my coping, which I know a lot of people don't struggle with that at an early age, but that was kind of my, I mean, I'm sure it came from the evil one.