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And he's like, Jesus is not the opposite of Satan because Satan was a created being.

So the opposite of Satan would not be Jesus.

It would be Michael the archangel.

But I mean, I think so often, though, when we think about this battle between good and evil, I mean, even someone raised in proper Christian theology, sometimes in my mind, I guess because of the way the world has presented this, is it is this cosmic battle that's been going on for eternity, but it hasn't been.

And that is a key distinction of understanding.

The way Dr. Ward backs into this discussion, because most of the podcast is on...

The idea of heaven and hell, which obviously there's a whole lot of that in the Screwtape Letters, but really even more in The Great Divorce and that whole idea that these people in hell take a trip to heaven.

And they don't quite experience it like those who are actually in heaven experience it.

It's actually beautifully written.

But the way he backs into this is with kind of another dilemma.

You know, the last podcast, we talked about that dilemma, that two-horn dilemma when we're dealing with the problem of pain, which is if God is all good and he's all powerful, and if God's all good, he would prefer a world without suffering.

If God is all powerful, he's able to create a world that he prefers.

And therefore, we have a world with suffering.

So either God

Is it good or God isn't all-powerful?

We dealt with that in the last podcast.

But here is another dilemma that's a two-horn dilemma that is meant to kind of stump the Christian, right?

How do you deal with this idea of dualism, this idea of good, bad?

versus evil.

And one of the ways that this has been presented over time is, you know, Plato had a thing that he wrote called Euthyphro's Dilemma.