Zack Scott

We did that with Daisuke.

We put in some ridiculous clauses into some contracts that essentially gave them full trades.

But it allowed us with a straight face to point to

this and say, hey, look, we've never, we haven't done this.

So, you know, we might give you the same language as that, but oftentimes not.

So, you know, it always struck me as an

Early in my career, I think I thought this is the right thing.

You've got to always maintain flexibility.

But the longer I was in the game, I started thinking differently about that.

Because if you think about it, especially when you're shopping in the high end of free agency, their contract is essentially a no trade.

It's limiting in who you can trade that player to.

Yes, adding a full no trade creates this other dynamic.

You saw it probably with like Arenado last year where he was only willing to go to –

certain places so it's it's definitely like a real factor but a lot of the times we've had 10-5 players that are have full no trades right we've been able to get guys to waive those no trades sometimes like in a Josh Beckett's case you know I don't we didn't I don't believe we paid him anything uh you know additionally he just wanted out he just wanted out and sometimes that's what happens is when you express that you don't want a player we saw that with you know

Contreras who the Red Sox acquired, right?

Like he didn't want to necessarily leave at least publicly.

And then he came around to thinking like, well, given where the organization is, it probably does make sense.

And so, um, you know, I have no idea if he limited that for the Cardinals, but, um, you are giving them some leverage, but I don't think it should be a deal breaker.

And that's the same thing with opt-outs.

I look at David Price, when we signed him, it was a real big conversation internally about giving him an opt-out.