Zack Snyder

I was like an athlete.

I was really, but then I sort of got into like weight training.

I was like, that's what I want to do.

Everyone thought I was insane.

But, like, you know, and I think it was my meeting Jim and Jim being, like, because Jim had this, in the basement of Grinch Country Day, there was, like, this weirdo Jim and, like, you know, Chris Dickerson and, like, you know, Mike Katz, all these, like, crazy 80s bodybuilders would show up and train with him.

And it was, like, this weird, I'd be like, this is awesome.

And, like, we went to the Olympia.

Like, he took us to the Olympia in New York City.

I don't know what year was that, like, 82 or 83.

I forget what year it was.

But anyway, it was just really cool.

And I was just in this.

And then, of course, I was like, you know, Schwarzenegger.

I read his like book, Education of a Bodybuilder.

You know, it's a weirdo book.

I mean, I trained with Jim because I thought like, OK, yeah, maybe I'll be a bodybuilder one day.

That'd be cool.

Like, you know, but of course, like I was also painting.

And I remember when I when I was a senior in high school.

after I graduated, I went to London for a year to art school to paint.