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Yeah.

She had a man named Trey Stephens.

He is the co-founder of the AI defence company Andoril.

So he is the co-founder of a military technology company specialising in AI technology and capabilities.

It's like, who are we targeting?

Genuinely.

And then, as if all the decisions we've wrapped in this segment are not enough, covered in this segment are not enough, they had an exchange on this episode that Gwyneth or the producers or everyone involved must have gone, now that's good content.

Let's pull that out and put that on socials.

That was this clip, which we're about to play, which has since gone viral for, as you can imagine, all the wrong reasons.

That is not the quote you want out when you're interviewing the co-founder of a military technology company, but also you're in the midst of a scandal because you're promoting luxury real estate right in a conflict genocide zone.

Yeah.

Brad comes off quite well.

I'd say Brad, he cares about people.

I just don't feel anything.

I agree.

I think it's helpful to have more centrist voices speaking in the public domain and really teasing out how they feel about the world.

I'm never going to sit here and be like, no, centrists should be speaking right now.

If anything, I feel like we're so increasingly divided.

Centrist opinions and takes are increasingly important to see in the public domain.