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Zeke Fox

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Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

And he's just like, hmm, like weird week, huh? And I'm like, yeah. And what I was most struck by was when the elevator doors opened, we're in this like landing room, and there are just like tons of shoes, like dozens and dozens of shoes. It was a big apartment with five bedrooms. And what I realized was that, oh... All the people who worked at FTX, they all ran away. And they left their shoes.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

And he's just like, hmm, like weird week, huh? And I'm like, yeah. And what I was most struck by was when the elevator doors opened, we're in this like landing room, and there are just like tons of shoes, like dozens and dozens of shoes. It was a big apartment with five bedrooms. And what I realized was that, oh... All the people who worked at FTX, they all ran away. And they left their shoes.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

And he's just like, hmm, like weird week, huh? And I'm like, yeah. And what I was most struck by was when the elevator doors opened, we're in this like landing room, and there are just like tons of shoes, like dozens and dozens of shoes. It was a big apartment with five bedrooms. And what I realized was that, oh... All the people who worked at FTX, they all ran away. And they left their shoes.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

They were like, let me get off this island. That is haunting.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

They were like, let me get off this island. That is haunting.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

They were like, let me get off this island. That is haunting.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

So he led me down the marble hallway to the most modest room, I'm sure, in this apartment. And we spent just hours and hours talking about what had happened. He really tried to make this case that he had screwed up. Because the money's gone, right? The exchange failed. The customers all went to go cash in their chips at the casino. And the FTX casino was like, sorry, we don't have any money.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

So he led me down the marble hallway to the most modest room, I'm sure, in this apartment. And we spent just hours and hours talking about what had happened. He really tried to make this case that he had screwed up. Because the money's gone, right? The exchange failed. The customers all went to go cash in their chips at the casino. And the FTX casino was like, sorry, we don't have any money.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

So he led me down the marble hallway to the most modest room, I'm sure, in this apartment. And we spent just hours and hours talking about what had happened. He really tried to make this case that he had screwed up. Because the money's gone, right? The exchange failed. The customers all went to go cash in their chips at the casino. And the FTX casino was like, sorry, we don't have any money.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

Right, which is like not legit at all. Yeah. The great thing about Sam is that even though like his answers were lies, he would listen to your questions and he would answer them. Like a lot of like, you know, I'm sure you've interviewed people who just give you like the talking points. Oh, athletes. Athletes all of the time are just giving you the cliches to keep it moving.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

Right, which is like not legit at all. Yeah. The great thing about Sam is that even though like his answers were lies, he would listen to your questions and he would answer them. Like a lot of like, you know, I'm sure you've interviewed people who just give you like the talking points. Oh, athletes. Athletes all of the time are just giving you the cliches to keep it moving.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

Right, which is like not legit at all. Yeah. The great thing about Sam is that even though like his answers were lies, he would listen to your questions and he would answer them. Like a lot of like, you know, I'm sure you've interviewed people who just give you like the talking points. Oh, athletes. Athletes all of the time are just giving you the cliches to keep it moving.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

Yeah, he would give you a custom lie that directly addressed your question. A bespoke lie.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

Yeah, he would give you a custom lie that directly addressed your question. A bespoke lie.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

Yeah, he would give you a custom lie that directly addressed your question. A bespoke lie.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

So I'm like, Sam, are you saying... And you couldn't offend him. I was like, Sam, are you saying... This sounds ridiculous. You're saying that you lost $8 billion, you misplaced it, and he's misaccounted. And he thinks that he's played this trump card, and I'm going to be like... Oh, yeah. He was kind of delusional.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

So I'm like, Sam, are you saying... And you couldn't offend him. I was like, Sam, are you saying... This sounds ridiculous. You're saying that you lost $8 billion, you misplaced it, and he's misaccounted. And he thinks that he's played this trump card, and I'm going to be like... Oh, yeah. He was kind of delusional.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

So I'm like, Sam, are you saying... And you couldn't offend him. I was like, Sam, are you saying... This sounds ridiculous. You're saying that you lost $8 billion, you misplaced it, and he's misaccounted. And he thinks that he's played this trump card, and I'm going to be like... Oh, yeah. He was kind of delusional.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

He was still hoping that someone would give him $10 billion and he could just run it all back again and give it another try. A comeback. A Tom Brady f***ing comeback in the fourth quarter. Two minutes left is what he was planning on. He should have said, Tom, I paid you for 20 hours. Get down here and give me a pep talk. Because I'm facing a really tough challenge right now.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
How Sam Bankman-Fried Sportswashed an $8 Billion Crypto Fraud, Starring Tom Brady and Steph Curry

He was still hoping that someone would give him $10 billion and he could just run it all back again and give it another try. A comeback. A Tom Brady f***ing comeback in the fourth quarter. Two minutes left is what he was planning on. He should have said, Tom, I paid you for 20 hours. Get down here and give me a pep talk. Because I'm facing a really tough challenge right now.