Zoë Schiffer
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Yep.
But then after the release, Amazon CEO Andy Jassy calls the administration and basically flags a jailbreak that would essentially allow someone to bypass the model's guardrails and potentially get it to do bad things.
Jassy wasn't the only person to make this call, but he's the only one we know about right now.
a competitor who is invested in Anthropic.
So it's a complicated web.
What happens next is pretty widely disputed between the White House and administration officials and Anthropic.
But basically, the White House says that they call Anthropic and try and get CEO Dario Amadei on the phone, but they were unable to reach him because he was supposedly at a wellness retreat.
Anthropic vehemently denies that this was
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
Regardless, they get on the phone, looks like, you know, an hour and 15 minutes after the request was made to have that call.
And Dario basically tries to get more information about the jailbreak, like what was going on?
How serious was it?
Why is the White House flipping out?
It looks like Anthropic didn't believe this was as big a deal as the White House believed it was.
And there was some disagreement about the severity of what they had found.
In any case, the administration asks Anthropic to voluntarily remove the models.
And Dario, importantly, doesn't commit to doing that.
It doesn't look like he said no, but they get off the call and there's not the commitment.
And so then the next turn is that the administration imposes export control.