Zoë Schiffer

I think that it's still very much an open question and one that every frontier AI company is asking itself right now.

We know that OpenAI and the other labs, they're having serious discussions internally about like, well, what do we do?

Even if they haven't gotten, you know, a similar directive from the Trump administration, like all of these companies are releasing new models all the time.

And I think there's a lot of fear in the valley right now about, you know, how do we ensure that we don't end up in the same situation as anthropology?

I will say a couple of things.

One, I think obviously given the history that we already discussed, Anthropic has a much worse relationship with the Trump administration than basically any other company.

And this is definitely a line that Anthropic sources are hinting at.

This wouldn't have happened to someone else.

Basically, this is because I'm paraphrasing completely, but like this is because they hate us.

And then I think there's this question about, well, was the jailbreak, was it really, really serious?

Or was it something that was a little more tailored and narrow and the administration didn't have like the technical expertise to like understand?

I think, you know, the administration is saying, look, Amazon brought this to us.

We ran it by cybersecurity experts up and down the administration and they said it was really serious.

We believe we have, I think the word was proof, but Anthropic is still...

seemingly disputing that.

No.

And I think that some of the pushback we are seeing is like, how are we supposed to compete with China when China is releasing really advanced open source models?

Anyone can use them.

And in the U.S., we can no longer use, generally speaking, like the most capable models we have access to.

And I don't think the administration has a really strong answer to that, at least not yet.