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Zoe Gardner

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

He does do a sort of head shake, which is like, these are just facts. They're not important. What's important is what I'm saying. It's good to see somebody fact checking Donald Trump live on camera because we don't really get that anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

He does do a sort of head shake, which is like, these are just facts. They're not important. What's important is what I'm saying. It's good to see somebody fact checking Donald Trump live on camera because we don't really get that anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

Starmer's not Hugh Grant in love, actually. Obviously, you know, he's not going to stand up and do a kind of rousing speech. He's not going to do a national stereotype. Or the dance, thankfully. But I do think Starmer is probably at his best when he's making a case for something. And obviously this comes from his background of

Pod Save the UK
Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

Starmer's not Hugh Grant in love, actually. Obviously, you know, he's not going to stand up and do a kind of rousing speech. He's not going to do a national stereotype. Or the dance, thankfully. But I do think Starmer is probably at his best when he's making a case for something. And obviously this comes from his background of

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

a lawyer you know he's good on detail we saw that when he was really skewing Johnson over Partygate Boris Johnson back in the day he was really good at building a case bringing the details putting them to him and if you're dealing with someone like Boris Johnson or like Donald Trump who are a light on truth you know they're not that bothered about facts they just kind of bluster on and hope for the best that can be quite good

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

a lawyer you know he's good on detail we saw that when he was really skewing Johnson over Partygate Boris Johnson back in the day he was really good at building a case bringing the details putting them to him and if you're dealing with someone like Boris Johnson or like Donald Trump who are a light on truth you know they're not that bothered about facts they just kind of bluster on and hope for the best that can be quite good

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

But I think the problem is Keir Starmer, he just doesn't have that kind of leadership quality. He's more managerial. And I think he's nervous as well. He's nervous about what the US can do. The UK is in a very economically precarious situation. We're caught between the US and the EU. Macron is stronger because he's inside the EU. He has kind of the bluster of the rest of the union behind him.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

But I think the problem is Keir Starmer, he just doesn't have that kind of leadership quality. He's more managerial. And I think he's nervous as well. He's nervous about what the US can do. The UK is in a very economically precarious situation. We're caught between the US and the EU. Macron is stronger because he's inside the EU. He has kind of the bluster of the rest of the union behind him.

Pod Save the UK
Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

Whereas the UK, although in some ways it can be positive that they have historically acted as that bridge between the US and Europe, Trump is the unexpected force here. And I think Keir Starmer is just very, very nervous about dealing with this. We also have to remember he's only been prime minister for, what is it, nine months or something?

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

Whereas the UK, although in some ways it can be positive that they have historically acted as that bridge between the US and Europe, Trump is the unexpected force here. And I think Keir Starmer is just very, very nervous about dealing with this. We also have to remember he's only been prime minister for, what is it, nine months or something?

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

This isn't the challenge I think he thought he would be dealing with this early on in his premiership. So he'll be good on some things, but I think on that kind of putting Trump in his place, probably not so much.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

This isn't the challenge I think he thought he would be dealing with this early on in his premiership. So he'll be good on some things, but I think on that kind of putting Trump in his place, probably not so much.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

There are things that the US wants. So, you know, tariffs, as we spoke about before, that's the big elephant in the room. The UK really wants a trade deal, probably focused on tech and digital services. Trump will probably want concessions on agriculture, maybe on drug pricing as well. There are things that they both want from each other.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

There are things that the US wants. So, you know, tariffs, as we spoke about before, that's the big elephant in the room. The UK really wants a trade deal, probably focused on tech and digital services. Trump will probably want concessions on agriculture, maybe on drug pricing as well. There are things that they both want from each other.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

It's not just that the UK is going in cap in hand, hoping that the US will give them something. But, you know, Trump, he likes to display strength. That's how he is bolstering the US's economy. That's how he's bolstering the US's position in the world. He's going in as a leader who has total power and control. And in some ways, this...

Pod Save the UK
Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

It's not just that the UK is going in cap in hand, hoping that the US will give them something. But, you know, Trump, he likes to display strength. That's how he is bolstering the US's economy. That's how he's bolstering the US's position in the world. He's going in as a leader who has total power and control. And in some ways, this...

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

Giving him that and stroking his ego is probably the best way to get him to also do things for you. The other thing that Starmer probably will offer Trump is a full state visit. This was sort of rumoured in the papers over the weekend. He'll also offer him an address to both UK Parliament. So we might see Donald Trump do a speech here in the UK, which would be a very interesting one politically.

Pod Save the UK
Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

Giving him that and stroking his ego is probably the best way to get him to also do things for you. The other thing that Starmer probably will offer Trump is a full state visit. This was sort of rumoured in the papers over the weekend. He'll also offer him an address to both UK Parliament. So we might see Donald Trump do a speech here in the UK, which would be a very interesting one politically.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

I think when you look at the MPs who have been quite critical of Donald Trump in Parliament, how's that going to go down? Yeah.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

I think when you look at the MPs who have been quite critical of Donald Trump in Parliament, how's that going to go down? Yeah.