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Rebecca is sewing Halloween costumes. Kate switches it up. She now wants to be Sandy from Grease.

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But you still can't get out of the way of yourself.

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Yeah. And if I'm not perfect, what value do I have?

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Rebecca calls Randall while he's at the hardware store after this beautiful moment with Garuda.

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Yeah, first. Baby, probably gonna be like 24 hours.

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More That Was Us after this short break. Whether I'm tackling the chaos of life as a new parent yet again or juggling a packed schedule on set, it's Peloton that helps keep me balanced. Peloton has everything you need to keep on track with your goals no matter what season of life you're in.

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Yeah, I'm never gonna sleep again, what?

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I mean, I guess it's just like, they are the ultimate teachers. And I felt the same way as you described Sterling. It's like, it just, everything makes sense. All the cliches, life is in technicolor. You're just like, oh, this is what I'm meant to be doing. This is who I am. And like the definition of that keeps morphing and evolving.

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And now I'm also this person, I'm this kind of mother, I'm this kind of wife, I'm this kind of partner. I think children in my experience, like they are, they're the ultimate teachers of like how to be present because you cannot be, you can't be a good parent unless you are present. And you can't help but, like, you have to be with them. You have to be all eyes on them.

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You're quite literally keeping them alive. You're their only survival mechanism for the first couple years.

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I just, yeah, I feel like looking at them and living with them, it's like they are the ultimate reminder of not living on our phones, not living like for anybody. Like you have to sort of be there with them and you want to be. It's not even like, it's not even a choice that you're making. It just, it is what it is. It is what it is.

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And coming to that acceptance of everything is a phase, the good, the bad, the joyful, the exhausting, everything in between, the sooner you can come to that recognition and that conclusion, the easier it sort of is.

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And it's easier each time. It is. Yeah, when you have that working knowledge.

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You think you're going to break them? You think they're going to break you? Sure. Emotionally?

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And they do, and then you repair and rebuild yourself, and you're stronger for the next go-round. You're stronger for the next phase.

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But also, I think there are more tools in the toolbox to bring to work so it makes it more enjoyable in that respect.

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And... And you know that like, to me, having the privilege of like being on a show like this and having a job that we love so much, it was like, it further instilled in me like, oh, if I can be so lucky to be able to make the choices of what really matters,

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It was funny though. We were like, oh, I get, we were so caught up in like the moment and it being real.

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And I think also because you have these sort of like guidelines where on network television, like you can't really, you have to shoot things from a certain perspective. So it's like, it was hard to, yes, for it to be depicted in a way that would make sense for the audience.

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I had, during this episode, I had hurt my eye. I had to have stitches.

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I cut my eye, like right under the eyebrow. And it was a freak thing. I had to like go in the middle of the night and get these emergency plastic surgery to have my eyes sewn up.

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I had a huge black eye. that had to be covered for this whole episode. And I was in prosthetics. It was a very tricky situation that Zoe Hay, who we'll be talking to later in this episode, we didn't get into this with her in this conversation, but they had to sort of like camouflage the bruise and the stitches.

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They covered it up, giving me my Cher makeup, which Milo and I are dressed as Sunny and Cher in this episode.

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They kind of did like a really crazy over the top, like smoky purple eye to sort of match the bruising that was already there. But then I, it had to be camouflaged for me and prosthetics because we hadn't really lived in this. We hadn't lived in this timeline before with obviously with, with all three of the children, but also with Rebecca.

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We hadn't sort of been aged to this. This was sort of middle ground between the, the time period in which Jack passes away and the present day where Rebecca's in her sixties. So this sort of lived in like the mid fifties, late fifties. So yeah, so we had also that to sort of deal with my weird freak accident.

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The happiest moments will also be the saddest.

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I think that like realization hadn't dawned on her until...

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Oh, I wrote down the middle can be the beginning sometimes.

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Well, I will sort of break the illusion of, you know, it's challenging to do these scenes on a phone when you're not talking to someone else on the other end most of the time.

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And when I'm talking to babies, obviously there is a finite amount of time that any parent would want to volunteer their tiny baby to be on a set. I believe there is a 20-minute cutoff. We can only shoot with babies for about 20 minutes. So we're not going to waste that time with them being in a bassinet with a monologue when the camera's on an actor that is not the tiny child.

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So you're either talking to a doll or you're talking to an empty bassinet. So I just remember in this particular instance, there was a robotic doll.

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Yeah, I'll just take a towel or something. So yeah, so in these scenes, I am in fact talking to a weird, erratically moving robotic doll.

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Yeah, that's pretty, pretty astounding.

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And in fact, they will be most likely.

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Ooh, what's happening here? The stakes feel a little different.

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How they came back into each other's life.

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Yeah, I was like, okay, that's an interesting way to end an episode.

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Well, the good news is we are in the last few weeks of the holidays. Yes, it is a fun and beautiful time that we've worked so hard for, but my gosh, it is also so stressful. As a mom on the go already, it's tough enough to keep track of everything before holiday planning comes into play. But luckily, there's Life 360 Tile Trackers to help keep track of everything.

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It's the easy-to-use tool that lets you keep track of everything from gadgets to people, and it doesn't alert anyone you don't want to of your whereabouts.

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Well, I have gotten this for my husband, who I love dearly, but sometimes is constantly looking for his keys, his phone, his wallet. He's lost some combination of those things. And it's like he only discovers it, obviously, as we're about to walk out of the door.

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And all of the instruments that he tracks when he's traveling and checks. Wow.

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You're like a real style icon right now, Zo. Yeah, all I'll say is the glasses are really good for makeup artists who work in the film business. It hides a multitude of things at four o'clock in the morning.

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So can I just jump into, if you love our show and you love the fact that there is this seamless transition between these characters aging up, aging down, that is thanks in large part to Zoe and her team.

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Acknowledged and nominated and all of that over the course of the series. Your work was just so unbelievable. And we all used to joke about... Signing on to a show like this, thinking we were doing just a simple, sweet, emotional family drama.

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And lo and behold, we're like in season six and you're aging eight, nine, 10 characters, 20 years at a time and, you know, have teams of people doing prosthetics and whatnot. So yeah. Just to kind of jump right in there, when you signed on to be a part of the show, did you have any idea that you would be working your butt off as much as you ended up doing over the course of six seasons?

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Absolutely not. I had a friend who recommended me for the pilot. And the word she said to me is, it's just a little family. It's like a period show. Part of it is a period show. It's just like a family drama. I was like, oh, this sounds so chill. Yeah, I'd come off of OJ with 40 principles. And I thought, oh, this will be great. Yeah.

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But then I do remember the point where after the pilot was picked up and they were like, we're going to age Mandy into her 60s.

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Like if everybody doesn't completely buy it 100%, that was the other option. And Zoe, you can attest to this. Like we... we went through several iterations of hair and makeup tests to sort of land on the Goldilocks, like the right look.

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And that also sort of modified and changed over the course of maybe the first season or two, just with like the amount of appliances we would put on the face and just how far we would go for myself or for John or whatever. But I remember that very first hair and makeup test with another effects house that, you know, it wasn't the right look

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for Rebecca or for Miguel, but I just remember us being like, Ooh, this is, this is a bridge too far.

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I had actually, in between doing the pilot and when we knew we were going to be aging Rebecca, I had done a commercial and they had wanted to age an actress from her twenties with two actresses playing in the park, but bridging all the ages and the transitions in between. And I was shooting in Uruguay and Malaysia and I knew I needed appliances that were going to stay on and look good.

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And I could do by myself, like I wasn't going to have an assistant there to help or anything.

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i knew i had worked with stevie before and his appliances and that was the first time i had used his age appliances and i was in the hotel room like gluing them on my leg to make sure i could do it and i did this commercial and then when after our first makeup test uh that was done by somebody else dan had approached me and he said do you happen to have anything in the trailer that we could use and i said actually i do yeah

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And those were the pieces we initially used on Mandy for her for her first test. And that's where it grew. So I never had any doubts that it was going to be Stevie that was going to be doing.

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But what I liked about it was it's like a modular system. So you can build and it can kind of missed a potato headache. You know, you can use these cheeks and those wrinkles and this mouth and it's great.

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I do. I do. And I'm judging the facial hair right now, by the way.

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Don't think I ever miss a beat with you guys.

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Yes, well, I've certainly glued some on myself to make sure that they look good. Yeah, I love doing facial hair and that's something I've always done. It's a little specialty I do. So I was never afraid of jumping in with that with any of you gentlemen on the show. And I know that actually both of you, Sterling, we had to fake your facial hair several times.

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on and off and of course at the end of the season there where we when we went to San Francisco we shaved you Sully and had to rebuild your beard while you were growing it back in yes is that true yeah I feel like it would be a fun game and we've talked about this before for people to go through the course of the series and try to see if Milo's facial hair or any of yours quite frankly like what's real what's fudged a little bit what's totally just like glued on

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Because again, Zoe, your work is so seamless. Thank you so much. It's hard to see what's real and what's not.

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If you're looking at it, I did it wrong. I did it wrong. If you see it, I screwed up. That's my goal. I want the actors to look in the mirror when you're in the trailer, all of you to look in the mirror, and I just want you to see your character when you go out there.

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And I want you to be totally as comfortable as you can be with a piece of fabric and some hair glued on your face or prosthetics or whatever. But I want you to be able to go do your job and take it the rest of the way, you know?

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Yeah. We do, as we affectionately called it, euthanizing.

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Yeah, that's what we call it. And a lot of skin prep, a lot of products, a lot of iPads. And I do distinctly remember Milo would arrive on his motorcycle and flip up his visor in the morning to show me he was wearing his iPads on the way home. His little patches on his eyes.

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Totally. All of that. And then, you know, we did some more extreme de-aging where we did some facelifts and neck lifts.

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We actually use like a surgical tape that they use. It's very thin and clear and you sort of pull one side up and.

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I had braces and I believe that was some computer. Oh.

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Hello. How are we doing today? Happy Halloween.

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It was the package. I mean, you wouldn't have bought it if it weren't for, you know, like the look had to, like it all had to work together.

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Some great, yeah, some great knits. Yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah, I mean, there was some, certainly it was a real collaboration because it had to work with the makeup, had to work with the hair and also the wardrobe. And, you know, Hala was so amazing at like helping us cover you up because we were like, although there was one scene of you in a bathing suit, I remember. Yes, with Chrissy. And we were like.

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A butter scotch. I had visions of your little neck waddle just sort of floating off.

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I think it was 12 people, if I'm not mistaken. And the hardest part was we designed that. We didn't know that. We always knew that there would be Chrissy and you and Justin at the bedside. That was always a given. Of course, we knew at a certain point, we knew Miguel would be much older too. Nobody ever thought Toby would make it that far. We did not.

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I'm going to make some prosthetics for him now. So that was, you know, and when we had all the spouses.

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Yeah. And I would say that was the most challenging. I'm not sure. I know that at least two people were wearing like the same wrinkles as Mandy on her. Because the beauty of it is it moves so differently on everybody and the pieces are so small. So we're sort of like, oh, I think Mandy's eye bags will work on them. Yeah.

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So that helped us not have to re-sculpt things. Yeah. And by then, Stevie had such a big sort of stock of different things to choose from. So we sort of just... you know, picked bits and pieces, tied it together.

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Yeah. I mean, we certainly had, we had Mandy in a car crash. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of, uh, I believe. Yes. And some bloody bits and knees and things like that. Um, and I remember Justin, we did a swollen knee for, Oh, that's right. That was great.

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Yeah. I actually think Hannah's makeup was my favorite though, which I only got to do a couple of times. Stevie did that and that was taken over. And I thought that that was such a beautiful makeup. And again, one of those that nobody knew what she had on and we didn't really go into that during the show. And I felt that that was really beautifully done. It was. And worked as well. Yeah.

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But this was a nice little tasty morsel to sort of satiate us for now.

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And now hopefully you're going to air lots of beautiful things of you all, beautiful and younger, right? Yeah.

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I would say that Mandy was the easiest to take back. And I think I worked with you in your 20s.

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I don't want to hear a bit about it. I think when Mandy, when we worked with Because I Said So, you were in your 20s, right? I was, yeah. Yeah.

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Zoe and I worked on a movie together. Which movie? Because I Said So. Oh. Yeah, with Diane Keaton.

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If we were to ever do some sort of reboot of the show, I joke like, well, wouldn't need the prosthetics anymore.

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We love you. Thank you so much. It was lovely to see you. All right, bye-bye.

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Yeah, me too. I think we're going to be talking about Halloween costumes and see if Chris can fit into this one.

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Many people dressed up as the Pearsons. So let's take a look. Let's take a look at some of the best representations of the Pearsons.

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Jack and Rebecca. Oh, he's holding on to his mustache.

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Look at Sam. She's got the Steeler's jersey on.

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She's got the Rebecca Pearson hair happening.

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Handsome Bo. That's a handsome Jack. He didn't commit by cutting his hair, but we'll cut him some slack.

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Can we see photographic proof of this?

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No, no, but can we put it on social media?

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Yeah, when this episode airs, let's try to find a photo.

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Yeah, but I think it is more specifically, I mean, he obviously knows that he's adopted, but I think it's more specifically that there was another child, Kyle. We lost him.

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I love it. And the shirt, that's a perfect representation of, although Jack had the beard then, but yeah, it's okay.

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They're cute little baby dolls, but I have to say, are a Becca?

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They nailed season three, episode one, costume to a tee.

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We were at the fair. Yeah, that's a good one. It's sort of the extenuation of the first date. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No one else dressed up? These are all just Jack and Rebecca's.

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Wow, look, they've got the big three on there, too.

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We are back with our retread segment. This retread is brought to you by Peloton. Find your push, find your power with Peloton.

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So I think what we learned in this particular episode of the podcast Because Randall's on the precipice of fatherhood, we all talked about what becoming parents meant to us.

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We actually had to reshoot, we learned on the podcast, we had to reshoot part of this scene of Beth giving birth because it was a little too real, I guess.

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Yeah, we got to talk to Zoe about aging people forward, aging them backwards over the course of six seasons, and it was so wonderful to catch up with her. And I got eaten by a shark! And Sully got eaten by a shark.

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That's how I always took it. I was like, there's more to Randall. Yeah. Yes, maybe he is a little rigid, maybe he is a little anxious and stuff, but he has an... A reason. A reason, he has an understanding that maybe mom and dad don't necessarily see, but we see as the audience. That's how I've always sort of perceived it.

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Yeah. I mean, Jack so much as says to Rebecca before the kids go out trick-or-treating, or Rebecca does, you're not preparing her for life. If you're constantly sort of giving in to her, she's going to take that pattern with her for the rest of her life.

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Yeah. Yeah, let's get into who these folks were in their 20s.

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And too much stock maybe in like men, a romantic relationship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Her father. Yeah.

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Yeah, she gets the news about baby Tess being born later in the episode.

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in a salon? Yeah, he's probably someone's assistant. And so he's shampooing, he's at the shampoo bowl, regaling a customer with- With all the trials and tribulations. Of being a quote unquote working actor, trying to be a working actor.

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Right? Yeah, they finally reveal to each other the real truth.