Zoe Schiffer

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953 appearances 7 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 11 Jun

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Uncanny Valley | WIRED · Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search Is Over; AI Gets Booed by Graduates · 21 May 2026 podcast

I think that idea feels pretty pervasive, particularly if you're like an engineer of any sort.

Thank you so much for having me.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED · Trump’s Tech Posse in China; Who’s Winning in Musk v. Altman?; Hantavirus Conspiracy Theories · 14 May 2026 podcast

Welcome to Wired's Uncanny Valley.

I'm Zoe Schiffer, Director of Business and Industry.

And I'm Leah Feiger, Director of Politics and Science.

Today on the show, we're diving into the final week of the Musk v. Altman trial.

The high-profile testimonies we've heard this week, including from OpenAI CEO Sam Altman himself, have resurfaced a lot of past events and a lot of drama.

But we're asking, will this actually be consequential to the trial's verdict?

So we're wrapping up the final week of one of the most consequential and honestly one of the pettiest trials in Silicon Valley history, the one between Elon Musk and Sam Altman.

The last time we spoke about the trial, we were still at the very beginning figuring out who was going to speak and what they were going to say.

But now we've heard Musk's team put forth their key argument, namely that Sam Altman and OpenAI president Greg Brockman

deceived him by creating OpenAI's for-profit arm instead of keeping OpenAI as a classic charity.

This week, we heard from some of the key people who have been central to both the past and the present of OpenAI.

We're talking about Ilya Sutskever, who's the former OpenAI chief scientist, who was part of the effort to briefly oust Sam Altman as CEO back in November 2023.

We also heard from Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, who was one of the earliest backers of OpenAI.

And finally, Sam Altman himself took the stand.

Brian, Leah, I feel like I'm so close to this.

I have two reporters who are in the courtroom every single day.

I'm curious for your perspective on everything we've heard so far.

What do you think about what's happened in this trial, which could be wrapping up, at least in terms of major testimony, Thursday this week?

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