Zoe Schiffer

And Katie Drebin is Wired's global editorial director.

Welcome to Wired's Uncanny Valley.

I'm Zoe Schiffer, Director of Business and Industry.

And I'm Leah Feiger, Director of Politics and Science.

Today on the show, we're diving into recent reports that the Trump administration is considering an executive order that would establish some sort of federal oversight over new AI models.

And we're going to talk about whether this move actually signals a meaningful shift in future regulation of this technology.

Okay, so it's been an interesting week for the AI industry.

On Monday, we heard that the Trump administration announced what on its face seems like a pretty big about-face in its approach to AI regulation.

The New York Times initially reported that there is an executive order being considered, just at that stage right now, that would create a group of tech executives and government officials who would essentially review AI models before they are released to the public.

At the time that this was reported, it wasn't totally clear, at least to me, whether they would just get access to the models and be able to look at them and evaluate them or whether they would be able to say whether a model could be released or not.

But it does seem like a pretty significant reversal of the very loose and pointed lack of regulation that the Trump administration has had until now toward the AI industry.

You know, it's interesting because it's happening like right as a bunch of these companies, Google, Microsoft, XAI, Anthropic, OpenAI, already said that they would give the government early access to their models.

And so, I mean, I think it's quite interesting, particularly when we think back to J.D.

Vance not that long ago telling a group of regulators in Europe that the administration was going to take a very different approach to the Biden administration in terms of regulating this technology and really trying to, frankly, not regulate it.

So even the possibility that this could change, I think, is worth paying a lot of attention to.

But this is my question for you, Leah.

Like, when we're talking about who is going to be part of this oversight committee or who is even kind of drafting this, you know, supposed regulation or executive order, like, David Sachs is no longer in the mix, at least in the kind of official way that he was.

My read was that it was like Michael Kratzios and Susie Wiles who were now kind of managing his former portfolio.

I'm like,

Sorry, I don't want to be rude, but I'm like, you're telling me Susie Wiles is the person deciding whether mythos is too dangerous to release to the public?