Zohran Mamdani (guest)

And I do not think the one that we have is an example of that.

And to me, it is always and has always been the case

that far more important than the means by which you fund something is the fact that you are in fact funding it.

And so I still think that these two tax proposals are the most straightforward and productive ways to do so.

There are other revenue proposals that also exist that have been put forward.

There's also the fact that I have sat in Albany year after year and watched as we've been told the receipts we estimated, they're actually going to be bigger this year than we thought.

And if there is a proposal that the $4 billion we would raise from one of these taxes from the personal income tax increase can be found elsewhere, I'm not going to fight to bring it back to the original means that I suggested.

I'm going to fight to ensure that that works.

$4 billion is then used to fund a significant portion of universal childcare.

And I think that always has to be what drives us, that we are funding the affordability agenda, not the question of how.

And I do believe these are the two most straightforward ways to do so.

I would contrast Governor Hochul with Governor Cuomo in that Cuomo almost made it his mission to go to war with New York City.

He would cut so much of what he could find in what the state was funding across these five boroughs.

And when Bill de Blasio ran...

Right.

Right.

And to me, that is the kind of agreement that was missing under the previous leader of the state, because so often he was the obstacle to any affirmative vision of what government could be doing for working people.

I would distinguish one piece in that my use of the term genocide is not

a personal opinion, rather it's a reflection of findings by institutions even of genocide scholars themselves, institutions like the United Nations.

And it is a word that reflects what has been happening in Gaza.