Zoran Mamdani

On the bus drivers?

On the bus drivers.

Because unlike the train, the act of fare collection on the bus happens on the bus.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

It's their job, yeah.

And bus drivers and...

Unions have shared anecdotally that about 50% of assaults happen around the fare box.

So when you eliminate the fare box, you make for a safer experience for the bus driver, for everyone on the bus.

But I think many people have caricatures in their head as to what it means.

I often turn to Dr. King to describe socialism.

He said, call it democracy or call it democratic socialism.

There must be a better distribution of wealth for all of God's children in this country.

It comes back to dignity.

It comes back to ensuring that whatever you need to live a dignified life, that you have that.

You should not be priced out of a necessity.

We're not talking about want or like, we're talking about need.

You should not be priced out of being able to have a home to call your own, of being able to send your kid to school, being able to ride the bus.

And I've found actually that when you're speaking to New Yorkers one-to-one, they've actually had far fewer questions of how I describe my politics and far more of, does my politics include them?

are their struggles part of my focus?

And I've found that there are many people who might describe themselves in a different way, but when I speak about what this would mean for New York City, they start to see themselves in that vision.