Zoë Schiffer

They did say that.

Yes, we have.

Many times.

Yeah, that was rough.

And there's two things to say about this.

One is that one of the reasons that people are really upset is that the work they are being asked to do, they perceive as being very menial.

Meta basically took a bunch of engineers who, you know, at least in their telling to us, were working on interesting, exciting projects and said, hey, you now work in this other team and your projects are basically like

solving problems on behalf of an AI.

If an AI can't do something, you help it do it.

You're like, you know, doing what essentially sounds like post-training to kind of fine-tune a model and improve it for specific purposes.

Employees said things like, it's not like this work is difficult.

In fact, it is that the work is very not challenging.

It's chill, but suddenly I have no purpose in life.

It feels like I'm just given these random tasks.

I don't have agency anymore.

And the other thing about it, which you and I have talked about, is like employees didn't have a choice about joining this team.

Yeah, and people are frustrated about this for a number of reasons.

But one of the reasons that this is annoying to some people, at least, is that Meta is actually doing remarkably well as a company.

It's had record-breaking or near record-breaking quarters.

But it's not having business success necessarily because of Meta's AI projects.