#106 - Calista Clements - Monoculture, University Indoctrination & National Identity

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Sam Bamford 0:13
Hi guys, welcome back to Two Worlds Cloud Podcast. On today's episode, we have Clista Clements. I hope you guys enjoy. Go like that. But Clista Clements? Yes. Yes. Welcome to Two Worlds Cloud Podcast. How are you going?
Calista Clements 0:26
Yeah, good. Thanks for having me, Sam.
Sam Bamford 0:28
You're welcome. Just do us a little bit of a favor and get a little bit closer to the mic.
Calista Clements 0:31
Yep.
Sam Bamford 0:32
Perfect. And then we go from there. But first time in Adelaide, I've heard.
Calista Clements 0:35
Yes. I know. I've never been to Adelaide. I've been hanging to do the wineries here, but I haven't got around to it yet.
Yeah.
Sam Bamford 0:42
Yeah, the winery's in Adelaide are world-class, obviously. Yeah, they're beautiful. We get all the Chinese billionaires come here and go to McGill Estate. Have you heard of McGill Estate?
No.
Sam Bamford 0:53
So McGill Estate is the founding block of land that the Penfold family bought, you know, Penfold Wine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sam Bamford 1:01
Yeah, so the Penfolds came here in the 1800s. They bought a block of land, which is not far from this place here. and um they started into the wine game yeah and then over time um they've turned the mcgill estate into like the founding place and you can do tours there for like 20 or 30 and they give you free wine tasting at the end of it which sort of gets you tipsy yeah and uh it's really nice but even though the old house they have there which they built in 1800 you can go tour it yeah pretty it's uh it's beautiful
Calista Clements 1:32
What I noticed here as well when I was driving out, the houses are beautiful. They still got like a really colonial front. Yeah. Like when you go down to Tassie, you see all, yeah, the beautiful 1800s styled houses. It feels very preserved compared to, well, Melbourne, yeah.
Sam Bamford 1:50
Yeah, yeah, Melbourne's a little bit different. It's a bit... Say the least. A bit multiculturalised.
It is. It is very different.
Sam Bamford 1:58
But, yeah, no, it's... Yeah, Matt, I've been... I grew up in Adelaide. Loved it here. Moved away for... Since about the age of 18 to 20, 25. And then I came back after that.
Calista Clements 2:12
Where were you?
Sam Bamford 2:13
When I was in our years.
Calista Clements 2:15
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Sam Bamford 2:15
Yeah, I joined the army.
Calista Clements 2:17
Yeah, that's right. You were overseas, no? Yeah, yeah.
Sam Bamford 2:18
Yeah, joined the army overseas for a little bit. Spent a lot of time in Sydney. A little bit of time in Brisbane and Townsville.
Yeah, right.
Sam Bamford 2:26
And then, yeah, a bit of time overseas as well. But after all that, decided to come back to Adelaide.

How does monoculture differ from multiculturalism in national identity?

Calista Clements 2:30
Yeah.
Sam Bamford 2:30
A lot of my mates moved to the Gold Coast.
Calista Clements 2:32
Yeah. So many of the Goldies thriving. I was up there a couple of weeks ago for another potty. It was just beautiful. Everyone's chill. It really feels like Australia in like burly kind of, I don't know, it's gorgeous.
Sam Bamford 2:45
I was talking to Troy about this the other day. It's like 90s Australia.
Calista Clements 2:49
Yeah.
Sam Bamford 2:49
Like we haven't really got to the demographic replacement yet of like the Melbourne of the flood of immigrants coming in.
Calista Clements 2:55
I wasn't alive in the 90s, unfortunately. What? I wasn't alive in the 90s.
Sam Bamford 2:59
How old are you?
Calista Clements 3:00
I was born in 2000.
Sam Bamford 3:01
Holy shit.
Calista Clements 3:02
25.
Sam Bamford 3:03
Wow.
Calista Clements 3:03
Yeah. There you go.
Sam Bamford 3:05
You're probably the youngest person to come on this podcast.
Calista Clements 3:07
There you go.
First for everything, Sam.
Sam Bamford 3:09
Well, I was born in 1990. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. So obviously I'm 10 years older than you.
Yeah.
Sam Bamford 3:13
The year 2000, there you go. Yeah. So why'd you start speaking up then? I mean, that's pretty odd for someone to be, you know, the 2000s.
Yeah.
Sam Bamford 3:23
Speaking out against the stuff you're, because people like you would normally be left-leaning, wouldn't they?
Calista Clements 3:28
Yeah, for sure. Well, I think that's the exact point. Like no one was speaking up and it was a matter of if, not when, who, you know, I've got a really amazing family, a great support network. My parents were incredibly influential. My pop was incredibly, both my grandparents, I should say, incredibly influential to me. So I was always politically inclined, always had opinions a very um pragmatic and black and white view on the world and yeah when the rise of um you know woke and the left or these certain opinions um i like the course uh post-modernism yeah marxist yeah yeah yeah like and it just it didn't make sense to me i was just like how does how does that work when we know um you know australia is a sanctuary for

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