Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Welcome to Postmortem. I'm 48 Hours correspondent Natalie Morales filling in as host today to speak with Anne-Marie Greene about her report on the murder of Jocelyn Peters. So on March 24th, 2016, Jocelyn's boyfriend, Cornelius Greene, called the St. Louis Police Department to report that Jocelyn had been shot in her apartment.
Now, this story features details that I have never encountered in another 48 Hours episode, including a key suspect eating pages out of a notebook and fragments of a potato that were found at the crime scene. We're going to discuss all of that and more. But first, Anne-Marie Green, thanks for joining us. Natalie, it's always great to be here.
And, you know, I always like doing postmortem with you, so it's fantastic. Thank you. I love doing it with you as well.
Chapter 2: What happened to Jocelyn Peters and who was involved?
And this one is such an intriguing case. I mean, I got to remind our viewers first, though, if you haven't watched or listened to our 48 Hours episode, Jocelyn Peters and the Notebook, just go check it out right now, then come back for a conversation. Jocelyn Peters was a 30-year-old beloved elementary school teacher.
She was in a relationship with a school principal, Cornelius Green, for five years. In fact, they were expecting a child together. Jocelyn was seven months pregnant when she was killed in her home. Well, now investigators did find a shell casing on the floor. No weapon, though, was recovered. Jocelyn's phone was also missing. And they did find something else that was really bizarre, Anne-Marie.
They did. They found potato fragments in the bedroom. And what they really believe is that it was used as a silencer. And it's not just the potato fragments in the bedroom. As you saw in the hour, Jocelyn was really kind of focused on her health and And she chronicled everything she ate throughout this pregnancy. Potatoes, not on the list. But there's a big bag of potatoes in the house.
Later on, what you find out is that Cornelius and Jocelyn went shopping shortly before she was killed. And one of the things they bought was potatoes. And the reason that it's kind of so important is it gives you an indication of the level of pre-planning for this. Right.
Chapter 3: What unusual evidence was found at the crime scene?
She just didn't just happen to have potatoes in. There was something very, very deliberate about purchasing those potatoes that day. And potatoes as a silencer. I mean, I had never even heard of that before. Where did that idea even come from? I mean, when I first heard of it, it reminded me of some like 1940s, like talkie gangster movie or did they call them talkies? Yeah. You know what I mean?
But it probably worked because no one in the apartment heard the gunshot. Right. But also, it's actually, you know, come up in movies and television before. In fact, they mentioned one particular movie during the trial and the 1992 film South Central. They use a silencer, a potato as a silencer. And I know the lead detective on the case actually did a demo for you.
I mean, this had to be extremely dangerous, by the way, right? I did not appreciate how dangerous it was until he sort of showed me how it would work, because I think in my mind I just thought, oh, you just stick the potato on the end. Right. But you can't. You have a gun sort of full of potato. So you have to kind of hold it.
So you can imagine, Natalie, you're holding this gun at the end of the gun where the bullet is coming out. You're holding a potato. If you move your hand in any direction by mistake, you're going to shoot your hand off. It's extremely dangerous. Does not sound like a good idea at all.
Well, police quickly zeroed in on Jocelyn's boyfriend at the time, Cornelius Green, after surveillance cameras reported. picked up images of a white sedan that appeared to look like the car that he drove. That was a Kia Optima. That was around 3 a.m. that the surveillance cameras picked up that image. Turns out, though, Cornelius had an alibi.
He was in Chicago at the time that Jocelyn was murdered. But we learn that he had loaned his car to his friend named Philip Cutler. Now, before I get into, you know, how we find out about that, I should talk about his trip to Chicago. He visited friends of his, a couple. 48 hours did reach out to them. They were not interested in participating in this process, according to the prosecution.
He was there for a couple of days and they did think it was sort of a little odd and that his behavior was a little odd during that time. You know, it's a quick turnaround. He comes right back.
But how we learn that he's lent his car is because while he's sitting in the interrogation room in the police station, he makes a phone call and he calls Cutler and asks Cutler to pick up the car and the cameras are rolling and we have all this video. Video and audio. So I guess he just forgot that in those interrogation rooms, the cameras are always rolling. So he also called his wife.
And yes, we're talking about his wife because he was still married at the time to his wife, Stephanie, and talked about his car keys and asked her, to then meet Cutler. Now, police bring Cutler in. That's when we see another bizarre thing happen on camera. He was caught on camera eating pages from his notebook. Hmm. So...
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Chapter 4: How did Cornelius Green's alibi complicate the investigation?
Right. Just horrific, you know, just thinking if she had possibly moved out just a little bit earlier because I know she was making plans to do that. Yes. She comes from an amazing family. They are so supportive of each other. And her mom, Lacey, had Jocelyn's old bedroom already. She saved money. She improved the bathroom in the house.
Like the plan was, Jocelyn, you come move in and then you will be surrounded by a village. And this child will have all the love and support that they need. Well, unfortunately, you know, we find out a week later she ends up dead. So Cutler was arrested and charged with Jocelyn's murder in June of 2016, and then Green was arrested and charged with Jocelyn's murder in October of 2016.
Both men were held in the city jail for six years. While they were waiting there, then, they were finally indicted on federal charges in 2022. Anne-Marie, why did it take so long? I know, Natalie, we've done cases that drag on and on and on. Often it's because the defendant is working the system. They fire their lawyers, you know, something along those lines. In this case, it's just because St.
Louis has such a tremendous backlog, which is like just bonkers to me. And eventually what ends up happening is federal prosecutors take a look at the case. And because, you know, it crosses state lines, it actually works really well as a federal case. And the thinking is that it'll be processed. They'll get to trial much faster.
It still takes, you know, a couple more years, but it does get to trial faster. But Greene, though, ended up taking a plea deal. Yeah. He does. He waits until the very, very end, like right before he's going to go to trial. But the state charges came with the death penalty. And so he ultimately decides that he's going to take a deal with the federal case.
The state charges are dropped, including that theft charge. And he agrees to certain facts in the case, like you always do when there's a plea. Right. But his co-defendant, Cutler, does not. He wants to go to trial. But I got to tell you, he did himself no favors. Several people told us that he was literally sleeping in court.
And when I asked, are you sure he wasn't just resting his eyes blinking for a very long time? He now he was snoring. So they knew he was sleeping. So I'm sure that didn't help at all. You can imagine what the jury thinks about that, especially when you consider that, you know, here he is charged with killing a pregnant woman, seven months pregnant at the time as well. Right.
So Cutler is found guilty. Philip Cutler and Cornelius Green, they're both sentenced to two consecutive life terms for the murders of Jocelyn Peters and for the murders of Michael Lee, her baby. And Cutler's appeals so far have been denied. And how did Jocelyn's family react to that verdict?
So certainly there was relief, but without Cornelius going to trial, it leaves sort of a ton of unanswered questions. We're just guessing as to why he did this, why he took this most extreme route to solve what he thought was a problem. But the ripple effects continue today. Jocelyn's aunt learned of her murder while she was driving on the highway. To this day, she cannot drive on the highway.
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