Moses Itauma Returns
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Thank you. This is Five Live Boxing.
On August 29th, there will be a fight, a heavyweight fight at the O2 in London between arguably the best prospect in the heavyweight division, Moses Itama, just 21, and Filip Hergovic, one of the top five heavyweights in the world. It's an old-fashioned fight.
What makes the upcoming fight between Moses Itauma and Filip Hrgovic significant?
It's a real fight. It's a proper fight. It's a massive test for young Moses. I'm Steve Bunce, and this is Five Live Boxing. So you find me out by the Thames, the sun's out, in the background there's the O2 beach, yes, the O2 beach, you can see it, Moses can see it. And then there's the O2 itself, there's the driving range, London's that way, Essex and the world is that way. Moses, you're going to be topping the billing there in a major fight against one of the top 10 heavyweights in the world, and you're still a boxing baby, how does it feel?
I've been getting called a kid, a baby.
When you're 22, it all stops. You're a man then.
Fair enough. So when you're 21, what is it?
It's man, don't worry.
It's definitely man. No, I mean, it's nice. It's a blessing. But I just don't know. I feel like the old two is too close at home for me to feel like I'm going to be at a fight. They even asked me the other day, do you want to stay in a hotel or are you going to stay... Like, are you going to stay in a hotel or are you going to stay at yours? Because I only live like 20, 30 minutes away from the O2.
So what will you do fight week?
I'm going to stay in a hotel because I like a fight week vibe, you know? It's essential.
Yeah. Hergovich, I think, is a really hard fight.
I think so as well.
If Hergovich was not this fight, but the fight after, I think it would be all right. What's your thinking with pushing for Hergovich? I know you did.
No, it's just... We had to think contractually, like, what fights could we make? And we had Hergovich and four other names. And, like, a couple other fights that I asked for, and the fans asked for as well, I asked if we could get them signed. But because different promotional companies, because they're different countries and X, Y, Z, we couldn't make them fights happen. But Hergovich is under Frank Warren. He was contractually supposed to fight me anyway, so it was just like, let's make that fight happen, you know?
And he pushed for it. He was happy.
My understanding, he was happy to push for it.
Of course, of course. What I think Hergovich does so well is he's done all of those things so well that some people are still waiting to see from you. What happens when you cut? What happens if you were dropped? What happens if you're pushed back?
How does Moses Itauma feel about being labeled a heavyweight prospect?
What happens if you're hurt? What happens if it's a tough fight after five, six or seven rounds? Big Phil's been in all of those fights.
So being cut, being dropped, being hit makes you a good fighter. That is exactly the opposite of what makes a good fighter.
But it gives you the experience for making sure you can handle those potential situations.
But if you've... You can be in 100 fights and win 100 and people are going to say, ah, but we never saw him tested. Come on, man. Just appreciate that he's done good, you know?
And you know what? That is a British thing. When Nassim Hamid finally lost after 35 fights, people said, see? Told you he couldn't handle a pressure fight. See?
People are just preying on downfalls, man. It's sad to see because... Do you know what it is? I just think it's human nature for people to hate or to not like what they don't have or to not experience. A form of jealousy? A form of jealousy. And I feel like a lot of people, you might be, let's say you are a 9 out of 10 boxer. as a 21-year-old. Rather developing into a 10 out of 10 boxer, they would love to exploit that one that you don't have. Does that make sense? Yeah, it absolutely makes sense. So I just feel like there is a form of jealousy in people where they might have not experienced what I've experienced. Like even just fighting in big shows at 20 years old.
Does that annoy you that that exists?
Or do you just have to let it... No, because I've noticed I do it as well.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:23
2
What makes the upcoming fight between Moses Itauma and Filip Hrgovic significant?
0:23–2:39
3
How does Moses Itauma feel about being labeled a heavyweight prospect?
2:39–5:08
4
What challenges does Moses anticipate facing against Hrgovic?
5:08–5:30
5
Why did Moses Itauma choose to fight Filip Hrgovic now?
5:30–6:47
6
What experiences does Moses believe will impact his performance in the ring?
6:47–10:19
7
How does Moses handle public perception and pressure as a young athlete?
10:19–32:55