90 Miles from Needles: the Desert Protection Podcast
S4E29: Episode 100 | Two Deserts, One Story with Rubén Martinéz
09 Aug 2025
In this chapter of the milestone hundredth episode of the "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," host Chris Clarke introduces a rich tapestry of insights from renowned desert advocate and writer Ruben Martinez. The chapter, part of a comprehensive six-part series celebrating this landmark with diverse contributors, invites listeners into a profound discussion linking deserts not only as geographical landscapes but as symbols of spiritual and existential exploration. Martinez shares an evocative narrative that intertwines personal experiences in the stark wilderness with broader socio-political and spiritual themes. Describing his retreat at a Cistercian monastery on the Lost Coast of California, he highlights the desert as a metaphor for existential struggle and spiritual enlightenment. Drawing connections between historical Christian meditation traditions and the contemporary borders between the U.S. and Mexico, Martinez explores the desert as both a literal and metaphorical backdrop for human migration and introspection. Through this exploration, he echoes the desert's dual role as a site of significant suffering amid hope, and as a place where nature's stark reality meets transcendent potential. Key Takeaways: The desert serves as a powerful metaphor for contemplation, self-discovery, and refuge. Historical Christian monastic traditions often depict the desert as a spiritual sanctuary and testing ground. The U.S.-Mexico borderlands bear a dual representation as both harsh environments and spaces of profound human migration and hope. Spiritual silence and withdrawal can act as essential means to confront personal and collective traumas. The chapter underscores the vital integration of storytelling and activism in understanding the contemporary and historical significance of desert regions. Notable Quotes: "I write about the desert from within the confines of a Cistercian monastery...in a region known generally as the Lost Coast.""The desert is lack, was fullness, was political or beyond politics...was native land.""Two darks, two deserts. One where corruption and violence joined to crucify the bodies of the vulnerable, and the other where silence is a salve...""Every step in the wilderness was an act of faith.""I'm in my desert alongside the migrants in theirs, writing in the dark." Resources: Rubén Martinéz at Loyola Marymount University https://bellarmine.lmu.edu/journalism/faculty/?expert=rubn.martnez Gary Paul Nabhan's anthology, The Nature of Desert Nature, published by University of Arizona Press. Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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