Since launching this podcast, it's been my ambition to interview John Cleese, in part because he has plenty of no BS clear thinking on what it means to be creative and in part because he is my comedy hero.But instead of just interviewing John, I thought I'd add an extra shot of brandy to the conversation and invite behavioural science's very own flame throwing alchemist Rory Sutherland, who also knows a thing or two about creativity. Show notes5.45 mins: understanding creativity and its conditions6.45: money people vs. creative people7.45: being childlike and playful8.50: embracing confusion9.30: why business decisions become boring11.00: be prepared to make mistakes 11.15: how John found his own creative style12.15: influence of Fawlty Towers on me14.20: the power of the unconscious17.00: how do you access the unconscious?18.40: dilettante bees and random exploration23.50: creativity in teams or solo24.15: origin of the Dead Parrot sketch26.10: Graham Chapman’s funeral27:00: Dave Trott and the love of the obvious28.05: John’s view on woke people34.45: Rudolf Hess and Rory’s Mum36.05: Iain McGilchrist & right/left brain hemisphere thinking38.00: making fun of Hitler39.45: commonalities between advertising and films43.05: Life of Brian backlash44.40: Brexit & Remainer certainty obsessionIf you enjoyed this conversation, do give me a review and subscribe here to read all my articles and win lots of great rewards for being part of the community!Creativity: A Short and Cheerful Guide, by John CleeseAlchemy: The Surprising Power of Ideas That Don't Make Sense, by Rory Sutherland Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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