AB Testing

Episode 225: Walmyr's Journey

13 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

SummaryIn this episode of the AB Testing Podcast, host Spy welcomes back Walmyr, a seasoned QA engineer and educator, to discuss his journey in qualit...

Episode 224: 2026 End of Year Mayhem

30 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of the A-B Testing Podcast, Spy, Walmyr, and Global Warming reflect on the past year, discussing their favorite books, podcasts, and e...

Episode 223: Lina Zubyte

22 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Lina joins Spy this week to talk about metrics, her upcoming book, and a bit about AI (with a whole lot of ranting).More from Lina on LinkedIn - https...

Episode 222: Quality is a System

05 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Spy is joined by Globalworming, and we talk about quality as a system, PCT hike statistics, and narrative fiction.

Episode 221: Project Management Thoughts w/ Timm Gleason

17 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Brent is still on hiatus, so Spy-Friend Timm Gleason joins the podcast this week to talk about stuff - but especially Spy's rant's on project ...

Episode 220: Spy Returns

09 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Back after a long hiatus - or half back. No Brent this week, but Andreas Worm and Danny Faught listen while I tell trail stories

Episode 219: Mailbag and Goodbye For Now

04 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We take on a mailbag question, and then talk a bit about the upcoming AB Testing hiatus as Alan prepares for a very long walk in the woods.

Episode 218: The Principles of AI Assisted Coding

31 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We ramble a bit...but then get somewhere interesting. Worth a listen.

Episode 217: Remote Work and Big News

20 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Alan gives Brent some advice on engaging remote workers, and Alan shares some bigly news.

Episode 216: A Palate Cleanser from AI

01 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We take a mailbag question - and talk about other stuff.

Episode 215: The Beat Goes On

10 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

More ranting and discussions (and sometimes, some insights) from Brent and Alan.

Episode 214: The AI Apocalypse

25 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

It's been a while, but we're back to disagree about measuring developer productivity, and then talk about the doom and rebirth coming from AI....

Episode 213: The 2024 Year in Review

28 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Usual end of year episode where we reflect on 2024, and look forward to 2025.

Episode 212: AI and Engagement Surveys

23 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Once again, we ramble on topics we didn't plan on talking about.

Episode 211: Leadership Stuff

03 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Welp - Alan asked Brent how it was going, he said it was review season, and then 40 minutes of babbling commenced

Episode 210: Mailbag with ChatGPT

06 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We're lazy, so we let chatgpt kick us off with a mailbag question. Tangents followed.

Episode 209: AI and Testing?

22 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

It's hard to tell what we talked about in this episode. But it involved a sleep-deprived Alan, and Brent, the Cat-Lady.

Episode 208: Brain Refactor w/ Dagna Bieda

08 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The wonderful Dagna Bieda joins us to talk about her new book, Brain Refactor. Buy the book at https://www.amazon.com/Brain-Refactor-Engineering-Fulf...

Episode 207: No, GenAI isn't replacing your team

25 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We talk about this article - https://stackoverflow.blog/2024/06/10/generative-ai-is-not-going-to-build-your-engineering-team-for-you/ - which is good,...

Episode 206: Crowd-Crash

28 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Just like millions of others, we feel the need to talk about crowdstrike - just a bit. Then we talk about leadership, engagement, and potential new po...

Episode 205: We're Afraid of AI

15 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

It's another episode of the AI Testing Podcast, where we discuss the advancements of AI, parallels to nuclear war, and what humans will do in the ...

Episode 204: The Three Ways of Devops & MT

22 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We talk about a lot of stuff - because that's what we do. Somewhere in there, we talk about the overlap between the ways of devops and MT, and Bre...

Episode 203: Podcast Alan

08 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We talk about "Podcast Alan", and a bit about Alan's day job. Once again, going with the minimal editing approach.

Episode 202: The Return

26 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

It's been a long break. Again. But there are reasons. This time, we take a mailbag question and talk about the challenges of organizational change...

Episode 201: Aftermath

29 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In the aftermath of the episode 200 extravaganza, we talk about Fallout (the show), and take a mailbag question that evolves into yet more discussions...

Episode 200: IT'S EPISODE 200

04 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We recorded this episode live - sort of. We have guests. We have fun. We get bobbleheads. We talk about AI. It's EVERYTHING you could ask for on o...

Episode 199: Ten Years Gone

31 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

For the first time in ten years, Brent and Alan both listen to the very first episode of AB Testing (so you don't have to).

Episode 198: Fiefdoms

28 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We talk about fiefdoms - but mostly we end up talking about the growth mindset.

Episodde 197: Wait - Test is Alive Again

25 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Somewhere in the middle of a whole lot of tangents, we take a walk though James Whittaker's post on The Resurrection of Software Testing - https:/...

Episode 196: A Chat with Kat Obring

11 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We had a great time with a wonderful guest. Big thanks to Kat Obring for hanging out with us. Sign up for Kat's newsletter here - https://katobrin...

Episode 195: AI and Alicorns

12 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We start with a bit of a retro of the last few episodes and once again head off into the weeds of AI.

Episode 194: More Testing and AI with Jason Arbon (part 2)

05 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

It's the remainder of the interview with Jason. It gets fun, it gets weird, and it gets cool.

Episode 193: More Testing and AI with Jason Arbon (part 1)

29 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We spent a little extra time with Jason and talked A LOT about AI, testing in AI, and whether or not Alan or Brent will have a quality title some day....

Episode 192: Bryan Finster

15 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We are joined by Bryan Finster who talks about his journey with CD, Developer Testing, and he shares all kinds of fantastic information on delivering ...

Episode 191: 2023 Year End Extravaganza

11 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

It's our annual year end episode where we discuss our predictions from a year ago, reflect on the last year, and think a bit about what may happen...

Episode 190: We Could Be Heroes

19 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We talk a bit about our friend chat GPT, and then talk about heroes in the workplace. There's an obvious cross-over to Alan's post on angrywea...

Episode 189: Brent being Brent

05 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We're back and recording on a new platform - except when we aren't. In this episode, we talk about...not AI...and instead talk about the Peter...

Episode 188: AI Testing with Jason Arbon

23 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We talk with Jason Arbon about - you guessed, AI. Unfortunately, this recording only contains two thirds of our discussion, since zencastr decided to ...

Episode 187: All we talk about is AI

02 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Yeah - we talk about AI, and (eventually) wonder if AI can be a good CEO.

Episode 186: IC or Manager - That is the Question

04 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode, Brent and Alan answer a mailbag question, and talk about how and when they have changed between manager and IC (individual contributo...

Episode 185: The ROI of Test Automation

07 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

So...Perze asked a question that he said was probably a thought experiment, but we tried to answer, but Perze was right and it ended up being a though...

Episode 184: Is Testing a Dying Profession

24 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We discuss an article by the same name, but also dive extensively into the topic, whether it's true or not (or maybe), and tell some stories along...

Episode 183: Premature Escalation

10 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We're back after a mini-break. In this episode, we talk about the concept of Premature Escalation, and whether or not teams are crossing the chasm...

Episode 182: Brian Pulliam and StrengthsFinders

05 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We are joined by Brian Pulliam, and we go waaaay deep into StrenthgsFinders. It was fascinating and fun, and a ton of fun. Brian's website is http...

Episode 181: The AI Testing Podcast

22 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We talk a lot (again) about AI. Just like Agile was a disruptor when we began the podcast AI is a disruptor that you can ignore at your own peril, or ...

Episode 180: Brent is Mary Poppins

09 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Apologies for the delay - anchor failed us for the first time (or maybe the problem was pbkac) - but posting 12 hours late regardless. We spend a lit...

Episode 179: An Interview with Chat GPT

24 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We talk almost entirely about AI, with the bulk of the time "interviewing" chat GPT about the modern testing principles. Lots of fun, and lo...

Episode 178: Testing vs Quality

10 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Beware - there are tangents and rambling. But - if you like listening to us talk about stuff in our lives, and eventually whether the emphasis should ...

Episode 177: How Alan quit his job

03 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We start with our (now) regular discussion of AI, and then talk about the deets of Alan leaving his job at Unity (and then more about AI)

Episode 176: AI, Migrations, and more Chat GPT

06 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

It's a pretty rambly episode, but we talk more about AI and chat gpt (sorry), touch on a mailbag question about migrations, and hit a few dozen other ...

Episode 175: We're Doomed

13 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Brent puts on his tinfoil hat and talks about how tech and AI are going to doom us all.

Episode 174: Healing the wounds of layoffs

30 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We talk quite a bit about the layoff situation in text - and then tell some stories about "the old days" at microsoft.

Episode 173: The Mindful Dev w/ Dagna Bieda

23 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We are joined by Dagna Bieda from https://www.themindfuldev.com to talk about coaching, burnout, and growth as a software engineer.

Episode 172: Dedicated Testers are a heuristic for slow feedback loops

09 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We spend the whole episode talking about the reactions to Alan's post describing why most software teams don't need dedicated testers. Bring the Hate!...

Episode 171: 2022 Recap and Look Forward into 2023

19 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

It's our last podcast of 2022, so we look back on the year, talk about our 2022 predictions, and look forward into 2023. And we once again, talk quite...

Episode 170: AB Testing meets ChatGPT

12 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We try not to talk about https://chat.openai.com/chat the entire episode, but we mostly fail. 

Episode 169: Zencaster Holds a Grudge

31 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We mostly talk about prioritization, but as usual, it's impossible for us to stick to a single topic.

Episode 168: Bubbles and Blowhards

17 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We talk a bit about the bubbles we're in and the bubble's we're not in. And then finally, we talk about how people can move into experimentation and M...

Episode 167: Oh my god! Get to the point!

03 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We record an entire podcast without getting to the point - or maybe we just created a lot of points. We talk about podcasting, how we learn, and async...

Episode 166: The Modern Modern Testing Podcast

15 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We chat a bit about filling offices, then a lot about A/B testing, and share a few stories along the way.

Episode 165: It IS Modern, and it IS about Testing

15 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

After a very brief political discussion (apologies), we talk about what we'd do as testers today, and along the way, accidentally reinvent Modern Test...

Episode 164: Matt LeRay from Speedscale

01 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We are joined by Matt from Speedscale. We talk a little about his company, but talk a lot about everything else. Important links https://www.speedsc...

Episode 163: Layoffs

18 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Interspersed with a ridiculous number of tangents, we talk about layoffs.

Episode 162: Hanging out with Kirk Marple

05 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We are joined by Kirk Marple, CEO of Unstruk. We talk about data mostly, but also baseball (which is also data) - and share a few microsoft stories.

Episode 161: msft stuff, and the state of modern testing

20 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We talk about a lot of stuff - including posting salary ranges for jobs, SDETs making devs cry, and the pesky Principle 7

Episode 160: The Modern Testing Podcast: featuring Bert Jernsen

06 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We talk about...a lot of things. From testing podcasts to A/B (with the slash) testing to the idea of Internal Developer Relations. It's a lot, so apo...

Episode 159: Darko Fabijan from Semaphore

02 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We have Darko from Semaphore - that's the good news. The bad news is that we lost the last 5-ish minutes of the podcast due to me not planning ahead. ...

Episode 158: Finding the Sweet Spot with Goal Setting

11 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We talk about setting goals...or commitments...or /PLANS/ for our team members.

Episode 157: Kanban - and then it gets boring...

27 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We play the kanban game - but stop, because playing the kanban game (kanbanboardgame.com) on a podcast is super boring. So then we just gave up and st...

Episode 156: Customers and Quality

14 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We talk a lot about Modern Testing Principle number 5 - the one that says only customers can evaluate quality, and why - despite controversy, we belie...

Episode 155: Quality Coaching with Anne-Marie Charrett

22 Feb 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We are honored to have Anne-Marie Charrett join us this week to talk about quality coaching.  Anne-Marie currently works at CultureAmp where she ...

Episode 154: The Complete Software Tester w/ Kristin Jackvony

07 Feb 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Kristin Jackvony - author of The Complete Software Tester - (https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Software-Tester-Strategies-High-Quality-ebook/dp/B09NGVVC...

Episode 153: Quality Coaching with Henry Golding

24 Jan 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we are joined by Henry Golding, who doesn't call himself a quality coach, but that's what he does anyway.  For more about Henry, check...

Episode 152: AAB Testing with Al Shalloway

10 Jan 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We are joined by Al Shalloway. We talk about Agile mostly, but we finally get to talk about SAFE. You can contact Al at al.shalloway at successenginee...

Episode 151: Past, Future, and Covid

13 Dec 2021

Contributed by Lukas

It's our last episode of 2021, so we take some time to reflect on the last year, look forward into the next year.

Episode 150: Ramble On

15 Nov 2021

Contributed by Lukas

It's our 150th episide. With absolutely zero celebration or anything else special, we ramble our way through discussions on Customer-Centric Monitorin...

Episode 149: Perks and Tips

25 Oct 2021

Contributed by Lukas

We talk a little about work place perks (for reasons unknown), and then talk more about the new fun challenges with Alan's new org.

Episode 148: Us, Them, and the (new?) MT Principles

11 Oct 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Eventually, we talk about how we could gear the Modern Testing Principles more towards development teams.

Episode 147: Coaching...and stuff

13 Sep 2021

Contributed by Lukas

We attempt to talk about coaching and quality coaching...and we do - mostly.

Episode 146: The answer is always data

23 Aug 2021

Contributed by Lukas

We chat a bit about the rise (?) of Modern Testing practices in the industry, and then look at a few TestSphere cards - and eventually end up talking ...

Episode 145: Diversity, Safety, and Brent's grody stories

09 Aug 2021

Contributed by Lukas

We kick off the episode with 5 painful minutes of discussion on Brent's hernia surgery before making it into a discussion on fairness, diversity, psyc...

Episode 144: Days of Future Past

26 Jul 2021

Contributed by Lukas

We talk a bit about Alan's recent AMA on the future of test automation and then about his past with Microsoft Teams.

Episode 143: Questions from Larry

12 Jul 2021

Contributed by Lukas

We dive (wade? splash??) into some listener questions on Theory of Constraints applied to different aspects of software development and Modern Testing...

Episode 142: Wild Ideas with Reflect

14 Jun 2021

Contributed by Lukas

We're joined by Nick and Todd from https://reflect.run to talk about the future of test automation (sort of) and developers creating UI automation. We...

Episode 141: Dichotomies and Tautologies

31 May 2021

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode, we discuss deep vs. shallow testing, choosing what to automate, and the future of testing roles (sort of). The link we discuss is htt...

Episode 140: AB DevOps

17 May 2021

Contributed by Lukas

We discuss Alan's experiences at TestingFestival, talk a bit about DevOps and answer (sort of) a mailbag question on BDD

Episode 139: The Genius of Tangents

10 May 2021

Contributed by Lukas

We talk more about Lencioni's working genius model, and attempt to attach it to a mailbag question about how projects get done in a modern testing wor...

Episode 138: So you want to "get into automation"

26 Apr 2021

Contributed by Lukas

We discuss one of the age-old questions of software testing. How does a "manaual tester" 'get into' automation. 

Episode 137: Personality Types

05 Apr 2021

Contributed by Lukas

We dive into our history of personality type tests. Starting with the classic MBTI, we move to Insights, Strengths Finders, and then Working Genius (w...

Episode 136: Learning stuff, and why testing isn't quality

22 Mar 2021

Contributed by Lukas

This time we talk a bit about learning (including an upcoming webinar from alan - https://www.meetup.com/Pacific-NW-Software-Quality-Conference-PNSQC/...

Episode 135: Record, Playback, and Personality

08 Mar 2021

Contributed by Lukas

We talk a bit about personality types (more on this in 136), touch on some thoughts on record & playback automation, and a few other tangential to...

Episode 134: Easier, Faster, Safer

22 Feb 2021

Contributed by Lukas

It's a bit of a meandering discussion this time, but we dance around the role of teams that support other teams success. Here's the blog post link Br...

Episode 133: Test Ownership and Test Automation

01 Feb 2021

Contributed by Lukas

We reflect a bit on Alan's recent article (inspired by episode 132), and then talk quite a bit about the correlation of test automation ownership and ...

AB Testing - Episode 132: Mindsets and Metrics

11 Jan 2021

Contributed by Lukas

It's our first episode of 2021 - where we talk (a little) about the US political situation, then discuss mindsets and skillsets - and then wrap things...

AB Testing – Episode 131: The 2020 Year End Extravaganza

07 Dec 2020

Contributed by Lukas

This is our last recording of 2020, so we reflect a little on 2020 and look forward to 2021.

AB Testing – Episode 130: The Pre-Election Episode

02 Nov 2020

Contributed by Lukas

We talk a bit about the upcoming U.S. Election, discuss ideal team size, and then workshop some ideas on what “advanced” training for Mode...

AB Testing – Episode 129: Alan’s Journey to Modern Testing

19 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

This time it’s the story of Alan – from music teacher to bicycle messenger to modern testing (and just a few steps in between). It’s...

AB Testing – Episode 128: Brent’s Path to Modern Testing

21 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

It’s origin story time. We talk about the early days of Brent’s testing career and how he found his way into the thing we now call Modern ...

AB Testing – Episode 127: Brent’s Hand & Alan’s Org

08 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Apologies for the audio issues – Brent was having technical challenges. We cover stuff related to Alan’s growing team (and responsibilitie...

AB Testing – Episode 126: Azure Powered

17 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

We talk about what’s going on with Alan’s expanded role at Unity and answer (sort of) a mailbag question about bottlenecks in delivering m...