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Aesthetic Intelligence

The New Leadership Playbook with Alexis Barber and Cedoni Francis

27 Nov 2025

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Two former Googlers-turned-creators join Pauline to discuss the new leadership playbook in this creator-driven economy.In this episode, Pauline sits down with lifestyle influencer and author Alexis Barber (Too Smart For This) and digital creator and Columbia Business School student Cedoni Francis (“the luxurious big sister you never had”) to talk about:How their early careers at Google and YouTube prepared them to build and scale their own creator businessesWhy “shamelessness” became their secret weapon in launching their personal brandsWhat it really means to bet big on yourself—and how they protect their mental health while always being “on”The hidden costs of influencing, from pricey apartments and beauty treatments to GLP-1s and other investments required to “look the part”How status, success, and power are being redefined for a new generation of women

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