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Summary In this episode Max Beauchemin explores how multiplayer, multi‑agent engineering is reshaping individual and team velocity for building data and AI systems. Max shares his journey from Airflow and Superset to going all‑in on AI coding agents, describing a pragmatic “AI‑first reflex” for nearly every task and the emerging role of humans as orchestrators of agents. He digs into shifting bottlenecks — code review, QA, async coordination — and how better DevX/AIX, just‑in‑time context via tools, and structured "context as code" can keep pace with agent‑accelerated execution. He then dives deep into Agor, a new open‑source agent‑orchestration platform: a spatial, multiplayer canvas that manages git worktrees and shared dev environments, enables templated prompts and zone‑based workflows, and exposes an internal MCP so agents can operate the system — and each other. Max discusses session forking, sub‑session trees, scheduling, and safety considerations, and how these capabilities enable parallelization, handoffs across roles, and richer visibility into prompting and cost/usage—pointing to a near future where software engineering centers on orchestrating teams of agents and collaborators. Resources: agor.live (docs, one‑click Codespaces, npm install), Apache Superset, and related MCP/CLI tooling referenced for agent workflows. Announcements Hello and welcome to the AI Engineering Podcast, your guide to the fast-moving world of building scalable and maintainable AI systemsWhen ML teams try to run complex workflows through traditional orchestration tools, they hit walls. Cash App discovered this with their fraud detection models - they needed flexible compute, isolated environments, and seamless data exchange between workflows, but their existing tools couldn't deliver. That's why Cash App rely on Prefect. Now their ML workflows run on whatever infrastructure each model needs across Google Cloud, AWS, and Databricks. Custom packages stay isolated. Model outputs flow seamlessly between workflows. Companies like Whoop and 1Password also trust Prefect for their critical workflows. But Prefect didn't stop there. They just launched FastMCP - production-ready infrastructure for AI tools. You get Prefect's orchestration plus instant OAuth, serverless scaling, and blazing-fast Python execution. Deploy your AI tools once, connect to Claude, Cursor, or any MCP client. No more building auth flows or managing servers. Prefect orchestrates your ML pipeline. FastMCP handles your AI tool infrastructure. See what Prefect and Fast MCP can do for your AI workflows at aiengineeringpodcast.com/prefect today.Unlock the full potential of your AI workloads with a seamless and composable data infrastructure. Bruin is an open source framework that streamlines integration from the command line, allowing you to focus on what matters most - building intelligent systems. Write Python code for your business logic, and let Bruin handle the heavy lifting of data movement, lineage tracking, data quality monitoring, and governance enforcement. With native support for ML/AI workloads, Bruin empowers data teams to deliver faster, more reliable, and scalable AI solutions. Harness Bruin's connectors for hundreds of platforms, including popular machine learning frameworks like TensorFlow and PyTorch. Build end-to-end AI workflows that integrate seamlessly with your existing tech stack. Join the ranks of forward-thinking organizations that are revolutionizing their data engineering with Bruin. Get started today at aiengineeringpodcast.com/bruin, and for dbt Cloud customers, enjoy a $1,000 credit to migrate to Bruin Cloud.Your host is Tobias Macey and today I'm interviewing Maxime Beauchemin about the impact of multi-player multi-agent engineering on individual and team velocity for building better data systemsInterviewIntroductionHow did you get involved in the area of data management?Can you start by giving an overview of the types of work that you are relying on AI development agents for?As you bring agents into the mix for software engineering, what are the bottlenecks that start to show up?In my own experience there are a finite number of agents that I can manage in parallel. How does Agor help to increase that limit?How does making multi-agent management a multi-player experience change the dynamics of how you apply agentic engineering workflows?Contact InfoLinkedInLinksAgorApache AirflowApache SupersetPresetClaude CodeCodexPlaywright MCPTmuxGit WorktreesOpencode.aiGitHub CodespacesOnaThe intro and outro music is from Hitman's Lovesong feat. Paola Graziano by The Freak Fandango Orchestra/CC BY-SA 3.0