Former Google DeepMind Exec Warns: “Humans Are Already Falling Behind AI” | Steve Brown

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Steve Brown 0:00
Coming up on AI Haven't a Clue.

What predictions does Steve Brown make about humanoid robots?

Steve Brown 0:01
They can pump out robots all day long that are quite capable and less than $10,000 a piece.
James Chandler 0:07
We're talking about AI misconceptions.
Steve Brown 0:10
To go to DeepMind where one of their five core values is kindness. The buzz in Silicon Valley is completely different than anywhere else in the world. How it's reshaping our lives. It becomes viable to put data centers in space, which sounds amazingly crazy.

What misconceptions about AI does Steve Brown address?

Steve Brown 0:26
And we're getting in to agents. You're not taking full advantage of AI.
George Butler 0:34
Hello, welcome.

Why is kindness a core value at DeepMind?

George Butler 0:34
This is AI having a clue with KPMG. I am proud AI novice, George Butler. A proud novice, interesting. I am a proud AI expert, James Chandler. And I was trying to make the point that I'm proud not to be an expert in AI. Knee deep in AI.

What insights does Steve Brown share about Silicon Valley's buzz?

George Butler 0:54
It didn't come out quite right, though, did it?
James Chandler 0:56
Yeah, I don't feel like much of an expert sometimes. Sort of just coping with it. I know what you mean. Just plug it into the back of your head, you know, download it all, and then sort of away you go, yeah.
George Butler 1:06
So it's a bit like severance.

How could AI reshape the future of medicine?

George Butler 1:07
A bit like that. Like when you come into the studio, you're an expert. When you leave, you're just Jimmy. You drain me.

What are AI agents and how might they impact workflows?

George Butler 1:14
Funnily enough, you're not the first person to say that. On the way today, we are chatting to a super fascinating guest. He's an AI futurist, an entrepreneur. He's worked at Google's DeepMind, Intel. I mean, he is a proper experienced tech legend. Steve Brown, coming up on the show. I mean, Google DeepMind, I feel like that's something we've never really talked about on the show before. We should. What is DeepMind?
James Chandler 1:46
Sort of see it as Google's AI lab. So any sort of AI system they could build, probably stuff around language, probably stuff around maps. You know, it's sort of like a, what could I say, a sort of an AI potion that you could pour on all the brilliance that Google do already. But like an amazing UK success story.
George Butler 2:04
It's really interesting as well. I mean, we should definitely talk to Steve Brown about, clearly we've got fantastic roots in the UK with tech and entrepreneurship and how we can continue to foster that. If it is flourishing or perhaps if it's falling behind. That's all in the way with Steve. First though, James, should we do a listener question? Yes, please. Yeah, I'd like that. Let's do today's AI question with KPMG. Now, as you well know, anyone that asks a listener question, they win themselves this. Yes, a very fantastically fitting, high quality, quite stylish T-shirt is coming David's way in Liverpool. Hi, David. I feel like everyone in Liverpool's turned... Looch, looch in a booch. I apologise to anyone from Liverpool that is listening.
George Butler 3:00
Today's AI question with KPMG is from David in Liverpool, who says, would you rather have a human doctor with 20 years experience or an AI-trained doctor on every medical paper ever written?
James Chandler 3:14
Goodness me.
George Butler 3:14
Wow, that's a deep, deep question. Because one of the things that comes up time and time again when we talk about AI... and we're looking at the pros and the cons, people always say, you know, there are dangers, dangers, but then, you know, there's brilliant things that will be done in medicine and healthcare. So it's actually a really interesting question.
James Chandler 3:32
Healthcare has come up a lot, hasn't it, actually, in some of the guests we've talked to. My knee jerk goes, I think, probably the AI. But the more I sort of think about it, maybe the doctor wouldn't be a bad idea. The thing you've got to remember about what doctors do is sort of medicine and everything around it isn't just about sort of knowledge and retaining knowledge. You can upload all of the knowledge to JackGT and it can learn it and spit it back at you. But it's not just about memorizing it. There is empathy, judgment, wisdom, stuff that is going to be really hard for AI to do. So even if it's got all the data and it could look at something, it still might not get it right. And I think... You know, doctors have on a daily basis very difficult conversations with people, symptoms that maybe aren't clear, like how would you talk to someone who couldn't give you any information because they were in a coma or they were mute or something like that.

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