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AI Leadership Lab

Zak Ali on Answer Engine Optimization

04 Dec 2025

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In this episode of AI Leadership Lab, host Ryan Heath sits down with Zak Ali, US General Manager of Finder, a fintech firm, to explore how the rise of AI-powered answer engines is fundamentally reshaping digital marketing and web traffic. As ChatGPT and similar tools increasingly provide instant answers without requiring clicks to websites, Zak offers practical insights on adapting to this post-click economy, providing a roadmap for marketers and business leaders navigating the transition from traditional SEO to answer engine optimization.Key TakeawaysThe Post-Click Economy is HereThe future belongs to content requiring genuine human experience, expertise, and authentic perspectives that AI cannot replicate. Traffic patterns are fundamentally shifting away from simple fact-based queries toward content where real human insight adds irreplaceable value.Small Language Models Are the FutureRather than relying on massive general-purpose AI trained on the entire internet, specialized small language models (SLMs) trained on curated datasets deliver better, more efficient results. This approach addresses both environmental concerns around energy consumption and accuracy issues, while making AI more accessible and practical for specific use cases like medical diagnosis or financial analysis.Authenticity Becomes Competitive AdvantageAs AI-generated content floods the digital landscape with sameness, authentic human experiences and genuine perspectives will stand out more than ever. Companies and creators who lean into showcasing real expertise, original thinking, and unique voices will differentiate themselves in an increasingly homogenized content environment.The Value Exchange Must RebalanceAI systems cannot train themselves on their own output without degrading quality—they need human-created content. As AI potentially puts creators out of business, the value exchange will eventually tip back toward content creators, similar to how platforms like Cloudflare are introducing pay-per-crawl models that compensate publishers when AI systems access their content.Smaller Players Can Win Through AgilityWhile large organizations may secure lucrative licensing deals with AI companies, smaller publishers and businesses have the advantage of nimbleness. They can adapt quickly to new formats, experiment with emerging platforms, and pivot strategies without the bureaucratic inertia that slows down major corporations in responding to rapid technological change.AI Literacy Requires Immediate InvestmentThe lack of basic AI and media literacy represents a critical vulnerability, especially as countries like China invest heavily in teaching AI skills from elementary school. Success in the AI era requires intentional retraining programs and education initiatives rather than assuming market forces will naturally help workers adapt to displacement.Episode chapters[00:00] Welcome and the birth of a new industry[02:46] How AI is touching every industry simultaneously[03:16] The death of informational queries and web browsing[05:50] Will AI need to pay creators like Google News?[10:18] The post-click economy and digital ecosystem changes[12:15] Authenticity as the antidote to AI sameness[13:00] Privacy concerns and the ethics of AI data usage[16:26] Who deserves credit in the age of AI-generated content[23:22] What excites and worries Zak about AI's future[26:04] Media literacy and AI fact-checking on social platformsAbout the GuestZak Ali is the US General Manager of FinTech Finder, where he leads strategy and has become a leading voice in answer engine optimization (AEO), helping organizations adapt to a world where AI provides instant answers without requiring users to visit websites.With deep expertise in SEO, digital marketing, and fintech, Zak brings a pragmatic perspective to the AI transformation. Finder:⁠ https://www.finder.com⁠Connect with Zak Ali on LinkedIn: ⁠https://linkedin.com/in/zak-ali-ab267777/⁠

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