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AI-Curious with Jeff Wilser

Space Robots Are Here *Now*, w/ Icarus Robotics cofounders Ethan Barajas and Jamie Palmer

19 Sep 2025

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What happens when “space robots” stop being sci-fi set dressing and start punching a clock? We dig into a new breed of microgravity robots that do the unglamorous work—so astronauts can do more science.In this episode of AI-Curious, we talk with Ethan Barajas (CEO) and Jamie Palmer (CTO), co-founders of Icarus Robots, fresh out of stealth with a $6M raise. Their pitch is simple and radical: put agile, teleoperated robots insidespacecraft like the ISS to handle cargo, inspections, and maintenance—then use the resulting microgravity manipulation data to unlock partial (and eventually full) autonomy. We cover the tech, the economics (why astronaut time is so expensive), the AI roadmap, and a pragmatic path from today’s chores to tomorrow’s orbital factories and lunar bases.What we coverWhy astronaut hours are precious—and how robots can “augment” rather than replace themThe form factor: free-flying, drone-like bodies with dual arms optimized for zero-G dexterityInside first, outside later: a deployment strategy that lowers safety hurdles and accelerates learningData advantage: building the first large microgravity manipulation dataset via continuous teleopAI’s role: from human-in-the-loop control to primitives to scalable dexterous manipulationCommunications and latency: S-band today, laser links tomorrow; what “real-time” actually meansThe “orbital factory” thesis: pharma, semiconductors, fiber optics—and servicing orbital data centersLong-horizon forecasts: humans living and working in space; physical labor increasingly done by robotsGuestsEthan Barajas — Co-founder & CEO, Icarus RobotsJamie Palmer — Co-founder & CTO, Icarus RobotsWhy this mattersIf half of Earth’s GDP is labor, the space economy scales only when on-orbit labor scales. Teleoperated robots that learn from expert demonstrations—then graduate to safe autonomy—are a credible bridge from today’s stations to tomorrow’s factories, data centers, and off-world bases.https://www.icarusrobotics.com/

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