Father’s Day: Jesse Lee Peterson

Today’s chat is with Jesse Lee Peterson. You may have seen his youtube channel in which he chats with guests, or heard his radio show. We talk about his Time, Energy and Resources™ and get into some detailed discussions on men and women. Jesse is a talk show host, evangelist, mentor and counselor. He’s written four books: From Rage to Responsibility: Black Conservative Jesse Lee Peterson and America Today, CAM: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America, The Seven Guaranteed Steps to Spiritual, Family and Financial Success, 2007 and The ANTIDOTE: Healing America from the Poison of Hate, Blame and Victimhood. Connect with Jesse Web: https://thefallenstate.tv/ https://www.jesseleepeterson.com/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/jesseleepeterson1 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jesseleepeterson/ The opinions expressed by guests on the Alchemy for Life™ podcast do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast or its host. We expend energy understand and discuss topics with guests in the umbrella of Time, Energy and Resources™ and to that end listen to and discuss varying and differing opinions. Transcript You’re listening to the Mark Bradford Alchemy for Life podcast. Father’s Day interview with Jesse Lee Peterson. Introducing Jesse Lee Peterson and His Mission Mark Bradford: So I am here with Jesse Lee Peterson. Hi Jesse. Jesse Lee Peterson: Hey Mark, thanks for having me on. Mark Bradford: Oh I’m happy to have you on and as I as I start every show I ask the person who they are and what they do so if you don’t mind I’m going to ask you who you are and what you do. Jesse Lee Peterson: Well my name is is Jesse Lee Peterson. I am founder and president of BOND, the Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny and for 31 years we’ve been rebuilding the family by rebuilding the man. I uh we uh we Council, we tutor, we I have a uh we started an entrepreneur Academy where we’re helping young men start their own businesses and if those who are already in business need some advice we try to help them as well. Uh we started a credit union so that we can loan the guys the money that don’t have it to start up a business and uh they have to pay it back with small interest. I uh wrote several books from rage to responsibility, the seven guaranteed step to spiritual family and financial success guide, uh SCAM: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America, and The Antidote: Healing American from the Poison of Hate, Blame, and Victimhood. We also have the Fallenstate.TV F-A-L-L-E-N the fallenstate.tv and JesseLeePeterson.com. Mark Bradford: Nicely done and people can find more information by going to rebuildingtheman.com. Jesse Lee Peterson: Rebuildingtheman.com. Mark Bradford: Perfect, very, very, very well executed and I meant to to say to you as well that at the end of the podcast I also always give people a chance to shout out and when we uh are finished with the podcast this is also published with an article that’s written and I always make sure to include all of your links so all of those links will be included including links to your books in the podcast when it’s released. Jesse Lee Peterson: Right on, thank you. Mark Bradford: You’re very welcome. The Concept of “Rebuilding the Man” Mark Bradford: Uh and one of the things you said was interesting you said rebuilding the man so can you expand on what that means? Jesse Lee Peterson: Well, um most men today especially Millennials but not only, don’t know how to become a man because they have been so degraded and and demoralized and put down and and just been brainwashed with drugs, pot and all that kind of stuff. So we’re showing them how to overcome uh the fallen state and return back to their natural state of being. And most men don’t realize that they have been turned away from their fathers by their mothers and because they resent the mother for doing that to them, being impatient with them, impose her will, you become like what you who whomever you’re angry at and most men have their mother’s identity because we’re all born through the woman so you get the woman’s identity. That’s why men are emotional, illogical, angry, they overreact to a situation just like a female because they have their mother’s identity and you know they must be born of the father they must return to the fathers. So we show them how to go and forgive their mothers for turning them away from the fathers and forgive the fathers for not protecting them from their mothers and once they do that God will give them back their their natural identity that of a man which is of God instead of a woman which is of Satan. Family Dynamics and the Roles of Men and Women Mark Bradford: Okay then the um I do realize that the statistics for um homes without a father are are really interesting when it comes to how it affects it’s odd that it affects the children more than homes without a mother you’d think it would be 50/50. Jesse Lee Peterson: Well it’s still it’s a fact that even those who are growing up in the home with the father because most men are married to their mothers and when they get married to these women they don’t know how to deal with them because they never overcame their mothers and learn how to deal with their mothers and so once they get married they become boys and the wife become the mama and they leave their children to the woman and she too end up turning them away from their fathers causing them to become angry like her and they take on the identity of their mothers and so if the fathers are not the head of their wives and standing between the wife and the and the children even those who are married uh the children will end up screwed up as well. Mark Bradford: Yeah and typically the men are seen as the the disciplinarians and and the final the final line you know wait till your father gets home sort of thing yeah and mothers are typically seen as the nurturer which is a bit is a bit difficult for men who who raise their kids on their own because they are the nurturer but they’re sometimes not looked upon that or given the benefit of the doubt that they do have the ability to do that. Jesse Lee Peterson: Well um it’s the it’s really the the role of the woman to watch over the man’s children why he’s away because he’s the vice president he’s the president and her job is to watch over his children you know feed them make sure that house is clean or if something should happen but you know the kids get out of control for whatever reason the mothers to report that to the father rather than trying to discipline the children because it’s not in the woman’s nature to discipline children. Women don’t have love they only have anger and they have a false sense of Love That emotional stuff is not love it’s come from anger. Real love come through the man, that it come from God through Christ through the man to the woman to the children and when that is not happening the whole family end up in destruction. A Spiritual Warfare Between Good and Evil Mark Bradford: And and are you detailing the the troubled people and people who come to you that’s essentially what you’re talking about uh in what you just described? Jesse Lee Peterson: Well I counsel with men and women around the world of all ages, all Races and it’s the same thing. It’s the same Spirit whether they are poor, have a lot of money, middle class and old or young, it’s the same thing. And when they realize that men and women, because a lot of women are just like their mothers too they got to forgive their mothers and return to their fathers otherwise they repeat the cycle of their mothers. And so all who are born are born into crazy families and they must overcome by returning to the fathers. Okay some are worse than others but the spirit is still the same. The battle is a spiritual battle it’s a Warfare between good and evil and that’s why men are so hated because the man represent God on Earth he’s the son of God even though he been turned away from the father he’s still the son of God. And so the spirit of the woman which is of Satan hate the spirit of the man. There’s an enmity between men and women because women they get their love from below and men men are sons of God women are daughters of Satan so you have that battle going on that’s why the man responsibility is to help the woman overcome that emotional state rather than catering to it because a person with emotion has no peace. Addressing the Pushback on Controversial Statements Mark Bradford: Okay so do you receive a bit of push back on a couple of the statements that you just made? Jesse Lee Peterson: I do but I don’t take it personally because I understand they can’t see and and uh so it’s not personal when I’m calling names when they are try to attack me I just let it roll off my back because I realize they cannot see. If they were able to see they will understand so I I don’t take it personal when they do that I’ve been called all kind of names all kinds of reason but it’s just it’s no big deal. Mark Bradford: Well I would imagine that women would take quite a bit of umbrage to being told that their love comes from below versus above right so I would imagine… Jesse Lee Peterson: And some do, those who are not seeking to overcome, those who are not seeking to overcome they will take him personal and overreact and is because women are very insecure and that’s why they try to make the world rotate around them they want you to believe that they’re the cat’s meow when they’re really not. And when you tell them the truth about that their egos goes out of control because if you notice Mark women they can’t handle the truth and the hardest thing for a woman to do is to admit that she’s wrong. She she can point out everybody else but herself and is everyone fault but hers and so uh they need a Father’s Love so that he could be patient with her and in about 50 years or so they start to overcome. Mark Bradford: Did you say 50 as in 5-0? [Laughter] Jesse Lee Peterson: Yes and then you die looking but at least the kids survive because they’re adult now. I see, that’s that’s a good amount of time that’s a that’s a considerable amount of time. Mark Bradford: And just before you die you you see a little glimpse of her waking up and then you die. Yeah I can definitely see a bit of push back on this I can definitely I can definitely I can definitely see that. And why do you think that would be pushed back? Jesse Lee Peterson: Well I would think any any aware intelligent person would take uh they would take exception to being told that everything that you just said actually that they are you know their love comes from below and that it takes while for them to sort of get out of their larval stage if you will because I would assume some people are already there I mean and I would assume across the across the two Sexes that it kind of both both genders kind of share some pluses and minuses. Jesse Lee Peterson: I have uh met women over the years who have heard the message and they’ve gone and forgiven their mothers, apologize for resented their mothers because they realized the mother couldn’t help it and returned to the father. Then those women they can see. But [Music] finding a woman that is honest and that can see is like looking for a needle and a haystack. Mark Bradford: Well I’d like to say that I I think I may have found a few needles then because I do think I do think I have encountered some women definitely that um seem to be very well adjusted and aware and perceptive and and do seem to at their core they’re very good people. Jesse Lee Peterson: So the way to find out is to tell them the truth about themselves then you see. Mark Bradford: Well I think humility goes a long way with lots of people and it is an excellent humility is an excellent test I think. Jesse Lee Peterson: Right and that’s one thing most women don’t have. I can think of many words to call women, humble is not one. Mark Bradford: I just I love that I just opened that door for you you’re welcome I was trying to close them. Cultural Shifts and the Role of Men Speaking Up Mark Bradford: Um okay then all right then. Jesse Lee Peterson: Agree with that? Mark Bradford: Do I agree that you who you with that? Well I think culturally we are set up right now that men are expected to be more humble than women because when you have when you have things like you go girl and and this kind of power and that kind of power and let’s support our each other and all sorts of hashtags and you don’t have those same hashtags for for guys and you can’t go to the store and and buy a t-shirt that says the future is male but you could certainly buy one that says the future’s female. I would I would certainly see that you know men basically grow up keeping their mouth shut or at least they try to versus this sort of sort of overly this this cheerleader kind of you know mentality that we’ve created now. Unfortunately I think the pendulum has swung a little too far. I completely understand building people up and I completely understand giving people self-esteem but when you keep throwing heaps and heaps and heaps of it I think there are some outcomes that may not be very desirable. Jesse Lee Peterson: But women they need men to speak up. Men men need to stop being beta males and start becoming alpha males and because women need men. Without men they’re lost they they because of their emotions their illogical mindset they make decisions based on how they feel how they think and so they’re never right and they need men to become like fathers to them and guide them in the way to go. Otherwise they they only get worse they cannot get better. Okay so they need men to start speaking up and have perfect love which only come from God right and they need that from the the men so that the women so that the women can get better. Women need men in the same manner that men need God. Mark Bradford: I thought you going to say women I thought you going to say it was a mutual thing. Jesse Lee Peterson: No the the man came from God and the woman came from the man and so if the man is out of order then the woman will go out of order because once the light of the man goes out the women light goes out because and then they can’t see the right way to go that’s why they screw up everything. Mark Bradford: I’m so glad you don’t generalize I appreciate that about you. Jesse Lee Peterson: No you’re welcome buddy. Deconstructing Passion vs. Dispassion Mark Bradford: There is a lot to be said about the male energy and the female energy and a lot is said about that not only in in in literature and so forth and but even in in in yoga practice and so forth when it comes to male energy and female energy and and the right brain and the left brain and creativity versus logic and we do typically expect certain members of society to be a bit more logical we expect other ones to be a bit more emotional. Jesse Lee Peterson: So what member of society is that which which one logical? Mark Bradford: Well we we typically expect sort of sort of to a lesser extent to what you had said that we expect men to be uh more logical you know militaristic logical all that all that stuff. Jesse Lee Peterson: Yeah and which one is illogical? Mark Bradford: Well creative let’s say a bit more creative a bit more emotional I guess we do we do expect that that that there’s a bit more of that when it comes to women. Jesse Lee Peterson: And not only do we expect it it is that way right? Mark Bradford: I I think I think we do tend to see that but I do think there are people who have right and left brain and they go back and forth there are some very creative emotional men just like there are some logical women out there too. Jesse Lee Peterson: When an emotional man is a woman he has a woman’s mind. Mark Bradford: That right the the female energy as I had I said yes. Jesse Lee Peterson: But that’s not good energy though that’s energy that’s evil okay because it come from below. And so anyone that has anger of course any man that has anger is a female he must overcome his mother’s and or grandmother whatever a woman raise him he must overcome them by forgiving them for what they’ve done to him and then forgive the father then he will come back but it’s not normal for a man to have anger that is the nature of his mother. Mark Bradford: So when you describe emotions though do do you not believe that there there are some good emotions to have that you can be a bit and I don’t want to say emotionally out of control but you can have emotion and still be very positive. Jesse Lee Peterson: Yes there is a normal emotion that comes from God and it guides you when you know but there’s when and when not to and all that stuff but there’s a a bad emotion evil emotion that come from Satan and it’s always feel sorry for people boohoo overreacting carrying on insecure doubt and fear and suicidal and depressed and controlling and all that and that is an evil emotion you’re not supposed to have those types of emotions. Mark Bradford: I do I I believe there’s a place for both I mean if if you know you cannot lead with only emotion only something bad can happen to that if you temper kindness with logic I think that’s that is definitely the best way to go because if you make laws and Things based on overreactions and and emotions and then you have to clean up later after that that’s never going to be good but if sort of temper that with the logic and and overseeing things in a more systemic way or as a system way I think that makes more sense yes but I do think there’s a place for both do you not? Jesse Lee Peterson: Well there’s only a place for one or the other you’re either a passionate emotional person or you are a dispassionate person because as I’ve said earlier a passionate uh emotional person whether is a man or woman uh uh is of their father the devil Satan is their daddy and if you are a dispassionate person is of God. Mark Bradford: So do you what drives you to have all these things that you that you’re doing is sort of like this ministry and the Fallen States and rebuilding the man and even like all the effort you put into even like establishing the credit union and and then that would you not call that passion? Jesse Lee Peterson: Not at all it’s dispassionate and the reason it’s happening is because I love God with all my heart soul and might and my neighbor as myself and what I do in life is what the father is giving me to do I didn’t plan to do this I’ve been doing it now for 31 years I’m surprised that I am doing what I’m doing it’s it’s a gift that was given to me by my Creator it’s his plan for me it is uh from him. Mark Bradford: So then how do you define passion then so like literally the definition of the word passion how do you define that then? Jesse Lee Peterson: When uh you hear a lot of people say oh I am passionate about my job I love my job I am so passionate about it I’m passionate about my flowers or I’m passionate about uh going to a movie or whatever all that stuff is is evil. Mark Bradford: So if someone’s passionate about a charity where they’re helping others right that’s not a good thing? Jesse Lee Peterson: Right when they’ll tell you that I’m lost I have suicidal thoughts and all that and I’m trying to find something to make myself feel better. They’re looking on the outside but not realizing that what they’re looking for is on the inside and they’re looking for that State of Mind of becoming dispassionate rather than passion and so they keep going from Passion to Passion never getting better only getting worse and then one day you hear about them they jumped off a bridge and killed himself. Time, Energy, and Resources in Service of a Mission Mark Bradford: So with that then um as as part of this umbrella of of Father’s Day that’s coming up uh as well as um the whole time energy and resources the what would you say you spend the most of your time on and all those things that you just described? Jesse Lee Peterson: Good question I think if I were to add up the time if I think about the time it would be it would be the radio show and okay the JesseLeePeterson.com and the uh counseling but I spent a lot of time doing a lot of other stuff too but I think it would mostly be like the counseling uh then well it be the radio show because I do that every day from uh 9:00 to I mean from 6:00 in the morning to 9:00 Monday through Friday Pacific Time right and then after that I do counseling until about 4:00 in the afternoon but so in between time I’m doing a little sometime I have to st uh tape some Fallen State news shows the fallenstate.tv and I have to tape some church services and other things as well so… Mark Bradford: Okay oh so obviously since around the world most of that would be virtual it’s a it’s a phone call or a zoom. Jesse Lee Peterson: Yeah some people can come in if they in the LA area uh other by phone calls or Skype. Mark Bradford: Okay so then of those things that take that much time which one would you say gives you the most energy back where you feel like you’ve been truly doing the thing you were supposed to do would you say all of those or is there one that stands out? Jesse Lee Peterson: That’s really an amazing question. They’re about the same I feel the same way about them all. Oh okay I feel that I feel the same way I I’m just grateful to be able to point people right back right I mean back to their natural state of being and and when they uh when they do find that when they find that Kingdom within and they they wake up there’s no Greater Joy than that meaning that I know now that they can see and they’re going to be fine right but other than that it’s just all about the same I’m just grateful for it all. The Antidote: Healing America from Hate, Blame, and Victimhood Mark Bradford: You mentioned the the books your what was your latest book again? Jesse Lee Peterson: It’s the uh The Antidote: Healing America from the Poison of Hate, Blame, and Victimhood. Mark Bradford: And how would you sum that one up for people would you say if if you were in an elevator and handing the book to someone what what would you say why they should read that? Jesse Lee Peterson: Because it will help them to realize that our battle is a Warfare between good and evil right versus wrong that has nothing to do with male or female black or white slavery or Jim Crow or police brutality or systemic racism is is has nothing to do with those things at all it’s just a Warfare between good and evil. There are those who are returned to the father they are of good and there are those who are still of their mothers and they are of evil no matter what color they are and the battle is a battle between those two and it’s working through human being. Good want to overtake evil and evil want to overtake good. But the ones who are of their father the devil Satan is your daddy they’re lying about is racism is men hating women is women hating men even though men hate men who have been born through their mothers hate all women until until they overcome mama and and all women hate men and their mothers until they overcome their fathers right but it has nothing to do with racism or sexism homophobia ism islamism deism Allah ism or white supremacism or anti-Semitism it’s no ism. The battle we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against spirits and principalities and wickedness in high places. But the children of the LIE have used words made up words like racism and all that in order to divide to deceive to divide and conquer and when it’s really spiritual if people knew that was spiritual they can overcome it but if they think that it’s about race or physical they would never overcome that it will only get worse. A Call for Good Men to Stand Up and Speak Truth Mark Bradford: And besides your your books and your counseling how how would you say that we we really bring that back sort of as a country? Jesse Lee Peterson: We got to start being honest. The people who will return to their fathers must speak up and when they call names like racist and sexist and homophobia and islamophobia you got to let that roll off your back because those people are doing that they’re fighting back but they’re fighting back with evil and so we have to love them enough to tell the truth and a few will overcome it the rest will suffer and die and there’s nothing you can do about it okay but we got to start telling the truth otherwise they’re going to look at them they’re out of control now right everything is racist everything is blame on white people but when you look at I’ve seen news report you know how the blacks men attacking the Asians right. Mark Bradford: I’ve seen I’ve seen tweets and things I’ve seen the Asian things yes. Jesse Lee Peterson: And when you looking at the report they’re blaming it on white people oh it’s white supremacy but I’m looking at black people doing it I don’t see white people doing I’m like what do what the they’re telling you that it’s white supremacy but in nearly every situation is blacks attacking the Asian and that’s been going on for a long time it’s nothing new when you go to the average inner city where Asians are living with businesses and things like that they’re been attacked by blacks it’s been gone off for a long time but the the Liars those of evil telling you that it’s the white folks because they hate white people and they want to get rid of them and the only way that’s going to stop going to come back to normal white people must start speaking up and and those who are not white but know the truth must start speaking up as well because these people they don’t like Christians they don’t like men they don’t like The Unborn children they don’t like they hate America as is and they want to destroy everything so if you don’t stand up for good don’t think that you’re Got To Get Away by hiding behind fear they’re coming after you too because they hate all when you don’t love one you love no one and and then they’ll turn on each other if you disagree with them or get in their way of power and money they’ll turn on you as well. Final Thoughts on Love, Father’s Day, and America’s Future Mark Bradford: Well that’s a that’s a that’s a wonderful note to be ending on and I promised you I wouldn’t take more than an hour so I Like Us ending on the the note of that everyone should just experience love and yeah and again uh so I wanted to know if you had any other shoutouts I will definitely uh keep all of your links in the article which you’ll you’ll see soon uh but if there’s anything else you wanted to shout out please by all means. Jesse Lee Peterson: Well I do want to say Happy Father’s Day to all of the men. Father’s Day is coming up this coming Sunday and uh I I really wish uh All fathers a happy Father Day. Also I want men to realize how important they are they are needed on Earth they’re on this Earth to let the light shine through them they are the light of the world and the soil of the Earth but they must be born again of the father so they can overcome the nature of the mother and then the world will become a better place. And uh so you know I wish everybody well it’s not about race I’m sick of all these lies about racism and all that crap it’s about right versus wrong good versus evil and we need to return to that and so I want all people to start realizing that get to know themselves so they can see the right way to go and overcome that Fallen State and then we can have Paradise on Earth again. America is the greatest country this on this side of heaven we should not be allowing the E uh the children of evil to destroy this country there’s nowhere else to go we got to stand up for it and not against it. Mark Bradford: And as you said love is the way. Jesse Lee Peterson: Yeah absolutely but the love has to come from above not below it has to come through God through Christ through the man through the woman through the children because women don’t have love have you noticed that Mark? Mark Bradford: Well I was we were so close we were so close we were almost at the door leaving on the note of [Laughter] love but… Jesse Lee Peterson: But I just don’t I want men to realize they’re trying to get love from the woman and the woman don’t have love receive love they don’t give love that emotional stuff is not love that’s hate it’s a false imitation of the real love and so I just want men to know that what they’re trying to get from the woman she doesn’t have it she doesn’t have love the love come from the father not from the mother or from the girlfriend or the fiance or somebody else’s wife or a woman with children a older woman a younger woman women don’t have love they receive love God through Christ through the man through the woman through the children. So we’re still ending on love. Have you noticed women don’t have love Mark? Mark Bradford: Well you know I’m feeling a little Deja Vu here because I think this is just just where we’re ending we’re ending before so again I think um I I would have to contradict you on that one but we’re sort of out of time but um… Jesse Lee Peterson: Oh man yeah I know right but I really [beep] um… Mark Bradford: I do I I I’ll add a beep in there so people think you swore. Um so I I really appreciate your time it’s been a a fascinating conversation and I absolutely value your time so thank you so much for joining me. Jesse Lee Peterson: All right I’m really enjoying talking to you as well thank you for for having me on it was amazing Mark. Mark Bradford: I’m glad you said that I was hoping You’d say that. Jesse Lee Peterson: Yeah true I totally enjoyed it. Time went by really fast. Mark Bradford: It did it did thank you so much. Jesse Lee Peterson: All right buddy. Mark Bradford: Thank you for listening I always very much appreciate it as always the opinions of guests of the show are not necessarily the opinions of the Alchemy for Life podcast or myself. We keep an open mind and we enjoy and appreciate the opinions of others. Take care.

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