Kenny and Mark deep (if not entirely concentrated!) dive into what has become an anthem and a credo for Madonna’s career with a discussion of the brilliant singer-songwriter (and familial relation) Joe Henry alongside an potpourri of topics: black crows and Joni Mitchell, David Letterman, strings on a pop hit, Melanie Ciccone, Sweet Relief and Vic Chesnutt (RIP, dear one), Tracy Young, Jamie King, and the arrival of the essential Monte Pittman. Mark grapples with his tortured relationship with the term “iconic” and Kenny takes a harrowing road trip through the mountains of Colorado. Plus, the b-side “Cyber-Raga”, Talvin Singh, and a direction the Music project COULD have taken. Is it time for that “Macarena” dance break yet??“Don’t Tell Me” video directed by Jean-Baptiste Mondino (2000)“Don’t Tell Me” live on Canal+ (Paris, 2000)“Don’t Tell Me” live on The Late Show with David Letterman (2000)Joe Henry performing “Stop” live in Amsterdam (2010)
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