All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Travis Kalanick & Michael Dell Live from Austin, Texas
17 Mar 2026
Chapter 1: What has Travis Kalanick been working on since exiting stealth mode?
I don't know if some of you knew I was an angel investor in some companies. On the count of three, what's my favorite angel investment of all time? One, two, three. Thank you. Give it up, Travis Kalanick.
Chapter 2: How is automation transforming the physical world?
Appreciate you. All right. Wow. On a big news day, Travis is here on a very big news day. You spent, wow, I guess like seven years just in the lab building. Last year, every year I ask you, hey, you want to come to the Women's Summit?
Chapter 3: What is the current state of the self-driving car race?
You want to? It's like, I'm going to just chill. I'm building. Next year, hey, you know, just toys available to you. I'm like, no, you don't understand.
Chapter 4: Why did Travis Kalanick leave Los Angeles for Austin?
I'm stealth. I'm stealth. I'm stealth. Nobody knows where I am. Nobody knows what I'm doing. The employees are not allowed to put the name of the company. On their LinkedIn. Thousands of employees that weren't allowed to put the company name on LinkedIn. I mean, incredible. And I'm like, okay. Their parents thought they worked for the CIA. Yeah.
And then he's like, and by the way, J. Cal, you can invest. You can't announce it. And you have to sign an ID. You can't mention you're an investor. It's like, okay, no problem. I'm just happy to be on the cap table. Is he like kind of like secret saying what he wasn't supposed to say? Yeah, right.
Chapter 5: What insights does Michael Dell share about entrepreneurship in Texas?
Now it's all about boy. Did that just happen? No. Well, you can't. No, you're out now. F***. Let's go.
Chapter 6: What is Dell's significant investment in AI infrastructure?
You're out. It's out. You came out of stealth today. It's so funny. It's so great. You came out of stealth. Well, you talked a little bit. You came to All In Summit last year. Is that true? Is that fair? You say you're coming out of stealth today? Is that right? Well, look, let's just start with what that meant for our employees.
Because again, imagine if you're at a multi-thousand person company and every single employee has stealth on their LinkedIn, including salespeople. Okay. Including recruiters. Like it was, they, they were, they were living life on hard mode. That's kind of fun too. Right. I mean, I mean, yeah, it was like, what the, what's, what is this?
Chapter 7: How does Michael Dell's Invest America initiative aim to impact children?
Why are there, why is this massive density of stealth? Right. Startup people in Los Angeles. What is happening over there? Yeah. Yeah. Also, technically, the name of the company in different countries was very generic names of companies. I mean, everything was designed to be stealth. Right. So we operate in 30 countries. In the US, the Kitchens product is known as Cloud Kitchens.
In Korea, it's Kitchen Valley. In the Middle East, it's Namaah. In Latin America, parts of Latin America, it's Casinos y Cueltas. I mean, you get the idea. You can't even remember all the names or all the code words. I have to think about it, yeah. You have to think it through. We have four in China. It's like all over the place, yeah.
But things have gone really well, and you've been a little acquisitive. So tell us about the branding today that you're announcing, and then maybe some of the acquisitions and evolution of the company. You're not just renting kitchen space. Those who, I mean, know how I thought about things in the Uber day, a lot of this stuff's not surprising.
I would often talk about digitizing the physical world. I think I even did it all at Summit. The quick version of this, I'll try to do it quickly, but it's like we know the bits world, the computer world, the one that Michael Dell essentially invented for us.
Chapter 8: What vision does Michael Dell have for the future of American entrepreneurship?
CPU, storage, network, these are three core computing resources when you go to computer science class your first day. Three core computer resources. CPU manipulates the bits, storage stores the bits, network moves bits from point A to point B. But if you're digitizing the physical world, you're treating atoms like bits. You're building an atoms-based computer.
And I'll explain what I mean in a second. I know this is a little out there. CPU manipulates bits. What manipulates atoms? Manufacturing. Storage stores bits. What stores atoms? Real estate. Network moves bits from point A to point B. What moves atoms? That's transportation or logistics. So you have these three core computing resources in an atoms-based computer. The name of my company...
was very obtuse and purposely designed to be as boring as hell, was called city storage systems. So that's digitized real estate in an atoms-based computer, our first computer being a food computer. What does that mean? Manufacturing real estate and logistics for food. And so you start to get there. And the idea, the mission was infrastructure for better food.
The idea was, can you get a meal that's prepared and delivered to you so efficient that it starts to approach the cost of going to the grocery store? If you can do that, you do to the kitchen what Uber did to the car. But in the Uber day, the roads were there. The cars are unused. You just had to put an app in the app store. It wasn't that easy, but kind of that easy.
In this world, you can't do this on a restaurant. Restaurant doesn't have... When I left Uber, 13% of all San Francisco miles were Uber miles. You can't get... And that was 10, 9 years ago. You can't get there on food, on restaurants. They have like 20% capacity. Uber Eats and DoorDash fill it. But the infrastructure to do high capacity, high scale sort of
industrial production is just not there and the logistics just not there. It just doesn't work. That's why on e-commerce you go through Amazon, big ass warehouses with awesome logistics. You've got to do the same thing when food, when food goes to e-commerce, that was a lot. Yeah. Okay. So bottom line is It's awesome. We do this food computation stuff. We're doing more computers now.
And so the name of the company is called Adams. And it's, let's say the mission is physical automation to transform industries and move the world. And so we have our food, Kabir talked about, then we do, we're doing mining. Mining as in mining minerals. Not data mining. We're talking about atoms, guys. Yeah.
So, well, of course you do some mining, data mining too, but the point is, is physical mining. So automation of mines. And the mission there is more productive mines to power Earth's industries. So it's got this industrial atoms vibe to it. And then on the transport side, it's a wheelbase for robots.
Because if you're doing specialized robots, not humanoids, specialized robots, you need to be able to move and act in the physical world. But the minute you're moving, you gotta have a wheelbase. So it's just part of the equation. And a lot of people go look at Tesla, it's great. Look at Waymo, awesome. They're cruising around Austin, of course. But there's so many things that move.
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