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Amala Ekpunobi

Elliot Page’s Definition Of “Healthy Masculinity” Is Going Viral

16 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is Elliot Page's perspective on healthy masculinity?

0.031 - 12.138 Amala Ekpunobi

Elliot Page, formerly Ellen Page, is going viral for her take on healthy masculinity as a transgender man. And I can't help but think this is one of the most feminine takes on the subject I've heard in quite some time.

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12.338 - 19.474 Glenn Greenwald

So let's talk about it.

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20.568 - 37.946 Amala Ekpunobi

Before we get into today's video, please like and subscribe. Today we're going to talk about Elliot Page, formerly Ellen Page, huge actress, now actor. Most of the drama surrounding Elliot Page recently has been about being cast in Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey, which we've all yet to see what that's about to look like.

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38.026 - 44.413 Amala Ekpunobi

But now Elliot Page is going viral for a take on healthy masculinity as a transgender man. So let's hear it.

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44.753 - 71.871 Glenn Greenwald

Healthy masculinity to me is, or even just something I've... felt as trans like transitioning is like leaning away from whenever there is some sort of impulse or expectation you've put on yourself to like shut down or conform in a way that usually feels like this like i am closing off i remember kind of being like oh elliot maybe you should you know talk with your hands a little less or

71.851 - 92.779 Glenn Greenwald

You know, maybe in pictures, because ever since transitioning now, I'm like, Johnny, I'm smiling. I am smiling in those photos. Whereas I used to be so I could barely look at a photo of myself. I was always like, you know, and now and I'll be taking to say a dude's like, hey, are you are you Victor from Umbrella Academy? You know, and we're doing a photo together. He's very.

92.759 - 106.196 Glenn Greenwald

And having that moment where I'm like, oh, should I also not? Should I also be closed off? And it's just like, what the fuck, Elliot? What are you talking about? Like, oh, honey, you're the part of the problem.

106.496 - 127.042 Amala Ekpunobi

Immediately when I'm hearing something like this, I can see the femininity in Elliot Page. You can see Ellen Page, I guess, for lack of a better way of saying that. And I have to think that this is the experience for most men or biological men, as we're going to have to call them in this video, when they watch... trans men talk about the male experience and how that manifests for them?

127.062 - 151.679 Amala Ekpunobi

Is there also this understanding that you can feel how feminine the characterization is of this healthy masculinity? Because that's what I see in front of me. I see a woman who is attempting a play at masculinity. And underneath that, even further, I see a woman who is a victim of sexual abuse. And that seems abundantly clear in virtually every video or statement that I see from Elliot Page.

Chapter 2: How does Elliot Page's transition impact his view on masculinity?

227.656 - 243.367 Glenn Greenwald

I was so uncomfortable to now kind of no matter what's going on, like my feet are on the ground and I had to do all that digging and I had to like scrape through all those layers and not worry about what people were going to say or think and all that.

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243.467 - 252.926 Glenn Greenwald

And gosh, when you do get like, feel like liberated from that and that shame that you've been carrying, like that is what I would wish for everybody.

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252.947 - 276.134 Amala Ekpunobi

I do wonder where the shame came from. I do wonder what she feels like she's been liberated. from, and it seems like the prying eyes and hands of other people. And this is somebody who's been in Hollywood, she says, since she was 10 years old. We all know how that goes for individuals like this. And it's so sad to see that this is the outcome, I think, of what Ellen Page experienced in Hollywood.

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276.194 - 286.167 Amala Ekpunobi

And there's other clips from this podcast that also emphasize this point. Let's listen to Alana ask Ellen about how healthily she moved through Hollywood.

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286.147 - 303.717 Elliot Page

Um, made the journey through being an actor, starting at a very young age, healthfully, were you like aware of the, I don't know, predatory nature of the industry? Were you, what was your like protection mechanism? I suppose is my question.

305.738 - 319.41 Glenn Greenwald

I mean, I don't wanna sound like be, or come across as like over dramatic by any means, but I would say that I don't know how healthily, I feel like I did sort of in some ways barely make it a bit.

319.525 - 338.374 Amala Ekpunobi

That's how Jacob does it. She feels like she barely made it a bit and it seems like that's true considering your entire identity has since shifted and you've decided to undergo all of these medical treatments and the hormone replacement therapy, this, that, and the third. Technically, Ellen Page did not make it out of Hollywood. And I think that's the point that's being made here.

338.695 - 358.879 Amala Ekpunobi

Whether she would want to admit it or not, her current identity is a reaction to the things that she's experienced rather than something that I think sits in reality. Yet there's still this push to blame people for pointing that out or to point fingers and call transphobic those who are saying, hey, maybe we don't subject children to this sort of treatment.

358.899 - 363.505 Amala Ekpunobi

Maybe we should question the reality of transgender ideology. Yes.

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