Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present
JUST IN: Border Czar's Words and Tone Might Have Just Change Everything In Minneapolis
29 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, January 29th, and we just heard from an adult in Minneapolis. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. I say that, Robes, because we just listened to, he's wrapping up, but Tom Holman, the new person in charge that the president has sent there.
He has said some things now that makes you actually think, you know who I thought about? What was the guy they put on the ground after Hurricane Katrina? Honoré.
Yes.
It makes it seem like there's chaos. And we have an adult who's come to clean this mess up. I liked what I heard from this guy.
Look, you have been asking for and questioning where is the voice of reason? Where is the person who we can say he's in charge? He's going to unite us. He's going to make this thing happen. And we hadn't had that until now. We had folks fanning the flames, fueling the fire. The tensions weren't getting tamped down. But you know what?
Hearing Tom Homan, the border czar, speak today, it was like a father figure, a grandfather figure, a whatever. But this person who you're like, you get it. You've been there, done that.
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Chapter 2: What did Border Czar Tom Homan say during his press conference in Minneapolis?
You know how to lead. And you know how to bring people together.
Even his demeanor. People have seen him. There is no emotion to this guy as he does his job. And maybe that's what's needed right now because everybody who stepped in front of a microphone has had some emotion in that voice.
I had not thought about that, but you nailed it. You actually need somebody who can take emotion out of it and get things done the way they need to be done with less emotion involved. And that is what tends to lead to the violence. So you're right. I hadn't thought it, but he is just straightforward. It's what you want. It's who you want in charge of a mess like this.
So the mess. We have several updates on the mess, including from Tom Homan. We'll tell you exactly what he said, which includes a drawdown plan. Yes. Also out of Minneapolis, another video and more arguing. There's another video of Pretty. Maybe you have seen it, but this was from an interaction he had with ICE agents. 11 days later. prior to his death.
Also, an update on the attack on Ilhan Omar. We know what was in that syringe now that that person sprayed on her during her town hall. Apple cider vinegar, they say. Also, we have an update on the agents who were involved in that shooting, and also a judge seems really pissed with ICE there in Minneapolis. We'll get to all that, but first, let's start with Holman. Robes, that's a big deal.
This man came out, stepped on stage, didn't take him long. He said there is a draw-down plan in the works.
That was huge. And I love that he said, I'm staying until the problem's gone. There was something reassuring about that, saying he wasn't here for photo ops and for headlines, but he was here for solutions. And part of that solution, yes, is that there is a drawdown plan in Minneapolis, and it involves coordination and cooperation.
with the attorney general, which he says he has, and with the sheriff's departments who are running some of these jails. There's a big part of going after the targeted, undocumented immigrants who are in prison or in jail right now, who have committed criminal acts.
That's a big deal. He's saying they're getting cooperation now and they have the right, according to the attorney general there in Minnesota, to go into and, yes, get those folks that are there who are illegally have been arrested.
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Chapter 3: How does Tom Homan's approach differ from previous immigration enforcement strategies?
And we I hope this goes without saying, but we'll say it just to be on record with it. Nothing justifies the killing of Freddie. Nothing that he did 11 days prior justifies him being shot in the street the way he was on that video. But the way he has been described and he he can still be a peaceful, wonderful human being who saves lives as an ICU nurse for the Veterans Affairs Hospital.
That can all be true. But at the same time, it can also be true, and this video clearly shows, that he was being aggressive and violent towards Border Patrol officers who were leaving the scene.
Chapter 4: What updates were shared regarding Alex Pretti's video prior to his death?
You see him in the video spitting at those officers who were in their vehicle. They did not react. They were actually taking off. But then he goes up and violently kicks their taillight, shattering them. The taillight cover, and that is when you see those agents get out of their vehicle and take him to the ground.
We'll say first we don't know what happened prior.
That's true.
Completely prior to when this video was shot, but we see a significant chunk of time beforehand, and you see the interaction for the most part. Don't know what set him off, but these officers were walking away. They were retreating from a guy who was spitting at them and yelling all kinds of profanities.
Chapter 5: What happened during the incident involving Congresswoman Ilhan Omar?
And aggressive ropes. He was angry. Okay. Yes. Fine. The vehicle was driving away from him when he went after it and kicked it twice. It was the second kick that did a significant amount of damage to a federal government vehicle. You said it first. This doesn't justify anything.
But it has to be taken in the full picture and in the context of what we're talking about and sometimes what the ICE agents are up against. It doesn't justify pulling out your weapon and shooting somebody.
Right.
But this was beyond peaceful protesting.
Yes. And of note, you see the scuffle and you see the officers take him to the ground. They eventually let him go and get back in their vehicle and take off. But you see Alex Preddy get up and stand up. And from the just the scuffle that happened, his shirt was kind of pulled up and you see that handgun. that we have talked so much about, tucked into the back of his waistband.
It's very visible in this video. And so he had it with him at that point as well, 11 days prior. I don't know if the officers didn't see it. I don't know if it even came into question at all in that moment, but it was of note and interesting.
It's interesting, and that has to be a lesson. It doesn't matter how angry you get. You can get as angry as you want. Yell and scream from the side of the road. He engaged Robes, and it's fair to say that a man with a gun on him attacked ICE agents. That, based on this video, is what you see. So Robes.
In that context, this was a much scarier scene to where if they had acted more violently, there would have been more of a justification.
It's so interesting. I was thinking about the difference between how we saw Alex Preddy act and react in this video 11 days prior to what we saw... in the video where he actually was shot and killed, where he very seemingly was videoing with his cell phone and then reacting and protecting, you could argue, a woman who got pepper sprayed and thrown to the ground. This is a much different scenario.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of the drawdown plan mentioned by Tom Homan?
So yes, that is being debated about and talked about and used by both sides. Excuse me, I should say really right now one side to go, see, told you, not a peaceful protester is what's coming. But stay with us here. Not the only developments out of Minneapolis.
The other major one having to do with the major headline a couple of nights ago when Ilhan Omar, Democratic Congresswoman, in the middle of a town hall making a speech and someone walked up and sprayed an unknown liquid on her. Immediately, the word staged started trending on social media. The president has chimed in on that, and we now know what that substance was. Apple cider vinegar.
Stay here. We continue here on Amy and TJ on this Thursday, January 29th. Robes, no one's ever going to be convinced that what happened to Ilhan Omar was not a staged event. Is there ever? Is anyone ever? I mean, if you're on one side of the aisle, you're just going to say, no matter what she does, she gets hit by a bus. They'll say a family member was driving the bus. I mean, just...
Right. Look, if you and there are plenty of people who have very strong opinions about Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, and a lot of it has been fueled by President Trump's constant daily rhetoric about her. But I do believe when you start to look at the man who has been arrested and charged and is now facing potential felonies.
federal charges, he does have a history of being pro-Trump, anti-Omar, and people who know him have talked about this, people, his ex-wife, his neighbors. So I do think if you look into the story beyond the headlines or beyond what you're reading on X, you will see that this man verifiably has a history of being political and anti-Omar.
But still, it continues. Folks continue to break down that video and slow it down. And she blinked at one point, and they consider that to be a signal for the most part. I'm being a little extreme, but it was barely more than a blink. And they think that was the signal for him to get up. Anyway, the president chimed in about her spraying herself. We knew that was probably coming.
I'm surprised he didn't say more.
Yeah, he just said she probably had herself sprayed, knowing her. But then, look, Ilhan Omar did make a point, and this is a fair point to make. She said every single time the president talks about her, says something negative about her, which I said is seemingly daily, she says the death threats against her skyrocket.
And the fact that she has to have personal security, the fact that she's asking actually now the government to pay for said security, she said this is simply and solely because of who is in the White House.
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