Art and Labor

226 – Paincast

30 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Fresh from top surgery and other gender based procedures, Nas and OK podcast from a castle at the end of the world in Manhole-hattan. OFC the fujoshi ...

225 – Yaoi Con Dachau

16 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Nas is back from Germany and tells us about the beauty of smaller anime fests in cities with functional public transit. We are turning into an anime p...

224 – Dispatch from the Election Night Boris Concert

05 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Hey sweetie angels, how we doing under the woke Sherita law Zohrussy caliphate?? The full concert was recorded in my bag my accident! A gift for the P...

223 – A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Theater

21 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

As the great band Sparks (playing in Brooklyn next month, and YES we are in the street team) once said “Everybody’s stupid, that’s f...

222 – Horse Race Replacement Therapy w/ Blake Andrews

01 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

OK called hir shot and got the Horse Race Master themselves on the pod! Blake Andrews makes incredible experimental games on the DIY community level t...

221 – Pod Save Ridgewood w/ Vape Kid Jr.

15 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Nu Art and Labor is she/hir!! We’re graced with the multitalented drag king, puppeteer, and playwriter Ashely Pignataro aka Vape Kid Jr.!!! Fres...

dj wildcat – gnarly

30 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

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dj wildccat – high hopes 203

24 Jun 2025

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220 – TV Show (free feed audio only)

09 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Hello and welcome to Art and Labor TV!! Comrade of the show Monica Rocha has engaged our brains on even more media resources our puny brains cannot ha...

219 – Podcast Convention

27 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Something is happening, we’re getting into the economics of conventions, will you join us? Will you Rambo for the library? I’m listening t...

218 – Mall Museum

15 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Things we talked about : Ridgewood/Bushwick border is getting a Burlington, what is Burlington?St Marks is Disney Universities are company townsLet’...

217 – Clown Drag w/ Monica Rocha

22 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We’re join by the multimedia artist Monica Rocha aka Momo the clown aka Myrtle Widecock aka Sappho’s Trap House!! We discuss the video mea...

216 – Music Ecology vs the Mood Machine w/ Liz Pelly LIVE

14 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

This is the Liz Pelly interview for the real heads!! We have a (perhaps brutally) honest discussion about the state of DIY and our extractive relation...

215 – Eating with Tech Money

03 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Can you believe it? The gang gets annoyed with another Ridgewood restaurant. Maybe it’ll make you feel at peace that the #1 podcast for trans gu...

214 – Collective Visions

28 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The gang’s all here. Nas is back after a brief health holiday and OK is back from Rhode Island where he was an artist resident at the Wedding Ca...

Interview with Concetta Abbate

18 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In our new series, Kenneth interviews New York violinist and composer Concetta Abbate. They discuss coming up in a family of working musicians, her ea...

213 – This Country is Unfit for Human Life

12 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Kenneth and Marshall share one mic and OK gets his own. Big tech guys are tailoring online discourse for right wing climate change deniers. So instead...

212 – The First Spectrum President

23 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Marshall, Kenneth, and OK in what’s maybe the most neurotic host configuration yet buzz little poems in your ears about the trains, the violence...

211 – Sigh Up

14 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Kenneth joins us in our furry freako catbird seats to discuss Luigi’s big media moment. Could this valedicktorian fag be a fall guy? Manifesto o...

DISPATCH – Wicked Winter and the WOKE 2 ERA

06 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We of course have takes about the CEO shooter with a beautiful smile, but it’s paywalled 😈 Enjoy our takes on WICKED, they were FRESH AT THE ...

210 – Let a Thousand Jokers Bloom

20 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This episode we build out the theory that film is dead, and everything is now a collage/humiliation ritual. Comic book characters are fun little guys ...

209 – ART AND LABOR CONVERTS TO CATHOLICISM

03 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

There’s a new Venom movie and you know what that means, Kevin is back!!! Apologies to all the #symbrock heads, we watched it after recording thi...

208 – The Trans Bourgeoisie

22 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The trans online commentariat went nuts over comrade of the pod Charlie Markbreiter’s new piece in The Nation “The Harris Campaign Has Off...

DISPATCH – Carousel Killer Investigation Log

18 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Lookn, we’re really behind. Please enjoy this crazy sound collage featuring a futch study of the Korn show in New Jesery, a search for the Carou...

207 – Radical Centrists

23 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Longtime listeners will know how tinfoil hat we were about tech before the mossad pager terrorist attack, but now we’re straight up ready to go ...

206 – The Carousel Killer

12 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Hey fam it’s the 9/11 episode. Be fucked up or sad about it, whatever the tone barometer’s at this year. For me? Personally? It’s de...

205 – Vienna Report Back

30 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Nas is back from Austria! OK is back from Toronto and the WRATH autonomous zone! And these freaks are WORN OUT, but ready to gab up a storm about demo...

204 – Millennial Sandwich Shop

05 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We’re joined by former West Coast farm kid and current UMAW member Kenneth of Slashed Tires fame!!! We should have put one of their songs as the...

203 – brat tamer

26 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to the frontline defense of the Women First movement. Nas, Marshall, and OK have gone third wave terf as brat summer sets into, and you heard ...

202 – I HOPE THEY BOTH DIE 2024

18 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Taylor Lorenz please retweet this!! DADDY NEED CLOUTY!! Welcome to vroom vroom room with OK and Nas. The two baddest tboys in podcasting are OFF LEASH...

201 – Welcome to Ridgewood, Duck! Mother Fucker

13 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Nas is on the dating apps, Marshall gets drafted into the trash pickers union, and OK gets called a dirty hippie 🥵 All pretty routine, episode 200...

199 – Homo Homogenous

14 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

OK is global homo now, and with that cums the vicious self critique. We’re synthesizing new levels of half Jewish half Catholic guilt, and it st...

198 – Bagel Snackcast w/ Linda Felcher

30 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This was gonna be paywalled, but it’s way too main episode vibe so no reason to assign it a gender. BIG ep for the New York nationalists out the...

197 – Assassination & Assimilation

18 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The crew discusses the inevitable Jewish civil war between the surge of nuclear families (zionism) and cringe polycules (New York cultural secularism....

196 – Layers of Unreality

08 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Precarity and propaganda. Becoming unhuman. The trans internet illuminati emerges in flesh. Nepo baby class traitors. Escape, find alternative ways to...

195 – Institutions? More like Instant Two Shits!! w/ Nas

26 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The new era of Art and Labor cuntinues to shape up with Marshall and OK grooming holocaust, memory, and internet studies scholar Nas to become a new N...

194 – Physical Media

18 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Iconic bald guys Marshall and OK are back, and this week they rant poetic about physical media. Who is speaking with authority? Is it us? Is it Tavi G...

193 – Suck by Suck West

04 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Art and Labor 2 is back! We take a second to decompress and to welcome new cohost Marshall, who’s talking to us today about United Musicians and All...

192 – Not in Our Name

26 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

(sorry for bad mic this ep) OK and Sarah warm up the engine a little with a conversation leading from, and leading to, the ethnic cleansing going on i...

190 – Netflix’s One Piece w/ Alex Degen and Alec Robbins

28 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

OK and Sarah are joined by two of our absolute favorite cartoonists Alex Degen and Alec Robbins to discuss One Piece both as a comic😤 and as conten...

189 – Art Work and Sex Work w/ Jin

24 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

OK’s Disclaimer Gallery comrade Jin is in town from Hawaii and updates us on the situation in Maui, their community care work, and the Be Easy S...

188 – Fagcon w/ Eric Kostiuk Willams

14 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

OK Fox and Eric Kostiuk Willams  return with a recap of festival season. We have criticisms and praises for Flamecon in NYC, Queer Tran...

187 – Anon Anon Meeting

16 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Know us by our sacred form; as Clotho, Lachesis, Atropos; yuanshi tianzun, lingbao tianzun, daode tianzun; final fantasy 10, final fantasy 10-2, final...

186 – ART AND LABOR 2

02 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

One of us saw Barbenheimer and one of us didn’t. Wouldn’t you know it, that doesn’t stop the take machine from churning here on the new and impr...

185 – Third Eyes ACTIVATE!

10 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Remember back in the day when we used to wax philosophical about the meaning and role of art? Oh you don’t, because this is the first episode you’...

184 – Fighting IRL

15 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

LUCIA IS BACK!!! We talk about navigating the art world during a recession. Is the way forward through Kung Fu?? Notice that the stiffest tree is most...

183 – Devil Deals

04 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Hello!! Welcome back to the fold, sweet lambs, I missed you terribly so…what’s your year been like, kids? Today’s Art and Labor is for the fans,...

S01E02 I Couldn’t Help But Gossip

09 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Strap on your leather necklaces, OK Fox and Eric Kostiuk Willams are back.  Each week we compare and contrast episodes of Sex and the City and Goss...

I Couldn’t Help But Gossip S01E01

23 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Hey podcastsiders, welcome to our brand new show! Each week we will compare and contrast episodes of Sex and the City and Gossip Girl. Join our journe...

182 – I See You

13 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

To hear our take on Andrew Callaghan and This Places Rules please support us on Patreon. 2022 was hard on your Art and Labor crew- so we wanted to sta...

181 – Gossip Girl Fanfic Novella w/ Charlie Markbreiter

13 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Hey Upper East Siders. The gossip gxrlies are here, and they’re queer stoners now. Our main characters are #1 Charlie Markbreiter, author, PhD c...

180 – Artists in Times of War

03 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

It’s the Christmas reunion special! And how else to possibly celebrate the reason for the season but a long hard look at the Ukranian Russian confli...

179 – Joker Proletarianism w/ Vera Drew

24 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week Art and Labor is joined by Vera Drew, director of The People’s Joker, history’s most anticipated queer-coming-of-age indictment of the c...

178 – Music & Labor Penny Fractions Panel w/ David Turner, Joey La Neve DeFrancesco, and Phillip Golub

17 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OK opens this panel by accosting the Nowadays crowd, a necessary struggle session to ground the conversation physically to art venues’ position ...

177 – One Piece Film Red w/ Sam Branman & August Lipp

09 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OK enlisted two of his favorite One Piece freaks—fashion designer and DJ/Producer of Str8 to DVD Sam Branman, and cartoonist August Lipp—t...

176 – How NGOs Fail Us w/ Nick

03 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Everyone’s favorite psedo-anonymous arts organizer Nick returns with a thoughtful critique and history of what the group INCITE! coined “t...

175 – Cultural Perverts w/ Sessa Englund

29 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

*come to our live show nowadays 11/9* Woop woop! OK is joined by longtime collaborator, fellow Sparks fan, and prolific artist of many materials inclu...

174 – Coolest Neighborhood in Hell

21 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

The Band in Hell by Electric Six The band in hellPlays all night longIt’s a sold out showAnd there is only one song There is no rhythmAnd there ...

173 – Liberate Westchester

27 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Fall has felled us once again, and it’s time to ask yourself: what if you went ahead and displayed the target goth home accessories year round? Woul...

172 – Nightcore over Hyperpop

15 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

A message to the people of Bushwig: BREAK THE CHAIN, ANNEX MASPETH. What is this episode? If I recall correctly we discuss how capitalists attempt to ...

171 – Adam Driver IS Yaoi

30 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

A special presentation for all the “social-sim” listeners- take a deep breath, and when you’re ready, slowly close your eyes to imagine yourself...

170 – Nathan For Art 2 w/ Alec Robbins & Hannah Guerrero

22 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

The long-awaited part 2 of A&L’s side pod, Fielderwatch, taking on the series finale of The Rehearsal with twitter’s most famous husband, Alec...

169 – Dog Soldiers w/ Spike Einbinder & Khamara

08 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

You’ve had your hot girl summer, white boy summer, and if you’re anything like us, you’ve still tossed and turned in your ac-less bedroom, dream...

168 – Nathan For Art

28 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OK and Sarah this week cover the first two episodes of Nathan Fielder’s new video art collection The Rehearsal and larger labor politics of cast...

ART AND LABOR PRESENTS: ON MOE (preview)

20 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We’re joined by distinguished panelists Beatrix Urkowitz and O Horvath, Kirby pornographer and Furry toy maker respectively, for a discussion we...

167 – Who Archives the Internet Archive w/ O Horvath

14 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Artist, librarian, and furry historian O Horvath (aka Popple) is BACK! We discuss a YouTube video with over 270k views that believes the Renaissance w...

166 – Euphoria Highschool Student Union (Part 1)

08 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Get ready to be triggered ’cause watched HBO’s Euphoria to join what feels like a mass movement to re-live highschool as self harm. An exp...

165 – A Generous Grift w/ Sam Lefebvre

30 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Fan favorite Sam Lefebvre’s newest work, the three-part series “A Generous Grift” for San Francisco-based community art space The Lab, is finall...

164 – TCAF Dispatch w/ Graham

23 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We brought in writer and certified Canadian Graham (@GrahamSig) to discuss the bittersweet bummer that is the current state of the Toronto Comic Arts ...

163 – Groomer Pride w/ Joey De Jesus

17 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OK catches up with fan favorite fourth mic Joey De Jesus (@DeJesusSaves) to talk Pride month, gossip about NYC local elections/budget woes, and the tr...

162 – Gun Cube Enclosure

03 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

I’m just asking questions- what if it all turned out to be lead the whole time? Generation theory: just lead? 20% chance of causing runaway climate ...

161 – The Wretched of the Multiverse

22 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OK gives Sarah a full Toronto report: new Kids in the Hall p good, Canada does not understand iced coffee or hanami, “New York” mode is re...

160 – Living Our Fontosy w/ Popple

27 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We’re back! And we brought the artist and vtuber sometimes known as POPPLE (aka swordsinverted). Get ready for your shift at the pussy eating fa...

159 – Fire in the Disco

09 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

A return to definitely a type of form, the Galleria caucus of Art and Labor (OK and Sarah) reckon with the eternal struggle of Knowing They Did A Gent...

158 – World of Statecraft w/ Eric Kostiuk Williams

21 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Our Canadian/Britney correspondent (and brilliant cartoonist) Eric Kostiuk Williams is back! We wildly speculate on the Grimes Chelsea Manning e-girl ...

157 – Tim Epic’s Bandcamp w/ David Turner

07 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Music business criticism expert, creator of the fantastic Penny Fractions newsletter, and honorary co-host David Turner is back to discuss the depress...

156 – The Art Worker Organizing Movement

24 Feb 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We were mentioned in enemy of the show the New York Times by friend of the show Zachary Small! The movement to organize art and cultural workers has b...

155 – Jackass Cultural Studies w/ Sean J Patrick Carney

17 Feb 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Fresh off an empty post-industrial mall cinema viewing, we discuss the Gesamtkunstwerk Jackass Forever with lauded expert in the field of suburban whi...

Constructing the Real’s Art Worlds – Anime Music Videos: an Artform and Culture

11 Feb 2022

Contributed by Lukas

WATCH IT HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYO_uyLqPu4&t=3137s Are AMVs proletarian or free fandom labor for multinational media companies? Wh...

154 – Socialist Fanfiction w/ Shawn Escarciga aka Miss Ladysalad

03 Feb 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Performance artist, meme maker, genius Shawn Escarciga (aka @Missladysald) enters the pod chamber. We discuss better practices for indoctrination like...

153 – Earth II

27 Jan 2022

Contributed by Lukas

There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to they/thems… It is a dimension as vast as the list of tags on Archive of Our Own and as ...

152 – Larry’s List, Biennial Man

23 Jan 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Wanting to fuck candy is the ultimate drive of any American, are we not just all in a snow globe within Ed Bernays mind palace? Turns out tailoring ar...

150 – Tarot for US Empire

14 Jan 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Plants have been here longer than people and they have some wisdom to share! Last time we did tarot it was a big hit so we’ve conjured a truly i...

149 – Funny Monkey

07 Jan 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Wanna hear us be on one? Then press play, and subscribe to our patrons only feed if you want to find out what cube you are on our brand new premium po...

148 – Pivot to Metaverse w/ David Turner and Liz Ryerson

30 Dec 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to the Garden of Theory and Praxis, the Graveyard of the Vibes, the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth, it’...

147 – Holiday Special Event

19 Dec 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Please enjoy this poetry. A behind the scenes origin story, details that give context for this journey. Violence. If you like the podcast and want mor...

146 – Mr. Beast’s Serfs (Part 1)

09 Dec 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Well pholks, know that we tried this week- a hot and fresh Art and Labor from our minds to yours! OK tries to “read” (personally never heard the t...

145 – How To Become Middle Class

02 Dec 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Participation trophy caucus of A+L (OK and Sarah) discuss How To with John Wilson’s first episode of their new season, “How to Invest in Real Est...

DISPATCH – while you were partying

17 Nov 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Warning for live human shit, sexual trauma, suicide, anger, and misery. We had a night on the town to see the new off Broadway production “while...

144 – Mormonism 3 w/ Matt Stephenson of Machine Girl

11 Nov 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Art and Labor your #1 source of queer nu metal speculation and investigation. Nostalgia is the reason for the season so we’ve brought...

143 – Fred Durst, Queer Icon

05 Nov 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Strap on your headsets! OK, Lucia and Sarah sit around the ol vr hot tub with you, the faceless facebook mii we serve. This week we wanna tell you the...

142 – Alec Takes w/ Alec Robbins

28 Oct 2021

Contributed by Lukas

The id must flow! On today’s episode OK and Sarah talk to cartoonist of Mr. Boop fame Alec Robbins about the on-going mass personae of twitter a...

141 – Save Mills College

19 Oct 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Mom (Joey) left $20 on the counter so Lucia and Sarah are eating powdered donuts for dinner, joined by special guests Hannah Bluhm and Dani Castone, t...

140 – Fake Art Friends

08 Oct 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Don’t tell them we told you this, but even though we got the best art friend split heart necklace with jerry saltz at the Manhattan mini mall last w...

139 – Labor Theory of Goop Value w/ Kevin Stuart

02 Oct 2021

Contributed by Lukas

The goop is class consciousness. Painter and nu-metal expert Kevin Stuart came to visit us in NYC! The main point of his trip was to see Venom 2 (whic...

138 – Organizing Art Worker Power w/ Jessalyn Aaland

23 Sep 2021

Contributed by Lukas

The gang is joined by former SFMOMAunion bargaining committee member, and current artist and educator Jessalyn Aaland! We have a lovely discussion aro...

137 – Walters Workers United

17 Sep 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Art and Labor is joined by members of the union-to-be of Baltimore’s Walters Art Museum, the Walters Workers United! OK and Lucia interview Ruby, Ga...

136 – Laughing at Pain w/ Caroline Bennett of Stice

10 Sep 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Content warning right at the top we talk about heavy stuff like addiction and sexual abuse, but also this conversation is really funny like an episode...

135 – Zombie Transgression

02 Sep 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Transgression: who is she? Is she real? Is she dead? OK and Lucia are back to their roots, being ON ONE. Covering a range of topics that all make sens...

134 – Britney and Liberation w/ Eric Kostiuk Williams

27 Aug 2021

Contributed by Lukas

I have a particular love of songs about how much it sucks to be famous, and true story was the world’s worst English teacher at a summer camp in Chi...