EP 106: Going from “I Can’t Do This” to “I Can Do This” with Artist Maggie Hinders

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Previously titled “Episode 106: Going from “I Can’t Do This” to “I Can Do This” with Artist Maggie Hinders” — renamed by the publisher on Sep 7, 2026

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Patti Johnson 0:00
You're listening to the Art Problems Podcast, episode 106. I'm your host, Patti Johnson. This is the podcast where we talk about how to get more shows, grants, and residencies. And today on the show, we have NEPHRC member, Maggie Hinders. Maggie, welcome to the show.
Maggie Hinders 0:27
Hi, it's great to be here.
Patti Johnson 0:30
Well, it's very great to see you here. Now, I invited you here this week because last week you talked about your experience in network and I wanted to have you on because I thought that that experience was just so nice for me to hear that it would be nice for other people to hear too. And I think what brought it on was the assessment.

How did the Netvvrk Navigator assessment change Maggie's artistic journey?

Patti Johnson 0:55
For those of you just learning about it, it's a survey tool and report designed to help artists identify exactly where they are in their career. I just did a podcast talking about the assessment last week. So if listeners, you haven't heard it, I encourage you to go back and listen to it. And Maggie, I wondered if you could talk about your experience with the assessment, because that's something that William Bajira and I have been working on for close to two years.
Maggie Hinders 1:23
Well, I jumped at the chance to do the assessment and the navigator because it was a new kind of way of, approaching being a member. I'll backtrack a little bit and say mostly what I found I was Using was the community aspect of it. I was very into like the crit sessions and the over 55 group, which was, you know, a lot about like various people's problems. In addition to like the actual technical stuff was the real pleasure of being connected to other artists in a deeper way than I've been able to do just in my community in real life. Right.
Patti Johnson 2:02
And I think like just for our listeners here, the Over 55 Collective is a small sort of subgroup that we have inside the Netflix membership for members who are over 55. And the Crick Group, I believe, is something that Chris Moss runs, and that is about getting feedback on your work. So there are a lot of different ways that you can engage in the community. And it sounds like you're saying that the way that you use the Netflix membership primarily has been to connect with other artists.
Maggie Hinders 2:35
Yeah, that's mainly what I did. And I had started through going through the curriculum and I frankly just got overwhelmed. I'm like, I don't think I was quite ready for all of that information because I had just retired from my job and started painting much more frequently than I had been. And I really didn't have my feet on the ground yet. So, but when I saw the navigator, I thought, I think I'm ready for this now.

What role does community play in an artist's development?

Maggie Hinders 3:01
And I looked at it and it immediately made sense to me.
Patti Johnson 3:04
So I want to explain to our listeners that we actually named the assessment. It's called the Network Navigator. And part of the reason we developed it was that while most artists have a lot of missing knowledge when it comes to career building, if you receive all of that information at once, it might be worse than not having it at all. It's such an overwhelming experience that it can leave a person too shocked to move forward. So we didn't want that. The assessment was a way of organizing all of the information that I had inside my brain about building visibility in a way that didn't involve every single artist needing to watch a million videos to get that information. Because you should never have to watch a million videos.
Patti Johnson 3:52
You only need to watch what's relevant to you right now. So not only do artists need to know where they should focus their attention, when, but that's going to vary depending on where you're at in your career. And our assessment solves that problem.
Maggie Hinders 4:10
Right. And what the initial assessment for the navigator did was it put all the ducks in a row. It just made it like, okay, here's where you are. And this is what will be helpful for you. And so start here. And it was just the clearest path, like the name says, but it was just the clearest path to the information I really needed. And each time I did something, and I mean, I've done the survey and I started on the William Pohida workbook material.

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