3.1 Steps Forward, 2.9 Back
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What insights does Kevin Gausman provide about the Blue Jays' current trajectory?
it's at the letters for wednesday june the 3rd 2026 arden's welling here with ben nicholson smith and our producer christian chenidi thanks so much for listening ben we are both in Atlanta and we are both witnessing what I suppose Kevin Gosman would refer to as the two steps back portion of the four steps forward, two steps back cycle that he described to us after Tuesday night's loss to the Atlanta Braves. A one run loss in a game in which the Blue Jays had a bunch of base runners. They had four hitters with multi-hit games and just could not Cash them against Bryce Elder and some really, really strong relief pitching from the back end of the Atlanta Braves bullpen. So how do you feel about that summation that Gosman gave us that the Blue Jays season has essentially been oscillating between four steps forward and two steps back?
Well, I definitely think it's accurate for the last little while where they have been building this momentum and they haven't been able to fully just seize it and push it forward to where it needs to be. And that was certainly the case over the weekend where they get to 500 and it's like, wow, this is the first time in a long time, despite all these injuries, they seem to be on the brink of turning it around and even going over 500. And then the Jeff Hoffman game happens and All those runs scored, they end up losing Saturday and Sunday and Tuesday. And look, we've seen this before. Like it's not some fatal blow for the Blue Jays to now be three games under 500 because they've been there for much of the season to this point.
But it is frustrating and it's going to test their patience and it's going to test their resilience.
Yeah, I think not to be pedantic, but I think it's probably more accurate to say three steps forward, three steps back. Because if you went four forward, two back, and you just kept doing that over the course of the season, I think you'd actually have a really, really successful season, right? I think you'd probably win like over 100 games. so that's like if that's what they're doing keep doing it because that's going to work out over time but yeah that's not what they're doing it's probably more so like 3.1 forward 2.9 back but look this is the I think the important thing to keep in mind here this team is just forever going to be compared to the 2025 team and we're just always going to because it's so similar and 2025 just happened and a lot of the
protagonists remain unchanged and we're constantly going to be comparing these players to what they did last year and the team to how it performed last year and all season long we've been saying hey blue jays got out to a slow start yes last year you know they didn't really get going until they were about 60 games in and we've seen them like this before and then we've seen them put it together and go on a run uh but this is the point right now when the blue jays really took off last year i mean they got up to five games above 500 about a week into june And then they never looked back. So if we're going to continue the comparisons to 2025, then this is the point where the Blue Jays need to get things going and they need to bear down and start winning a lot more than they're losing rather than just winning a little bit more.
then they're losing. And we'll see if that's possible in a really difficult stretch of schedule when it's not only like the Atlanta Braves who you're playing right now who have been the best team in baseball this year, but it's going home for a homestand against Baltimore, Philly, and the Yankees, and then going back on the road for Boston and Chicago. It's really a difficult stretch right now. Wins, particularly with the current state of the roster, it figures will be hard to come by.
How will Alejandro Kirk's return impact the Blue Jays' catcher situation?
Right. Last year, June, 16-10. July, 18-8. August, 15-12. September, 15-10. And then we know what happened in October. So clearly, the best baseball of the season happened late last year. And for all the comparisons that I think are fair and inevitable when you talk about a team that was as memorable as the 2025 Jays, what was best about that team was the late part of the season.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What insights does Kevin Gausman provide about the Blue Jays' current trajectory?
0:06–4:01
2
How will Alejandro Kirk's return impact the Blue Jays' catcher situation?
4:01–4:49
3
What recent pitching developments should we be aware of?
4:49–6:55
4
How are the Blue Jays coping with their current roster challenges?
6:55–19:32
5
What comparisons are being made between the current team and the 2025 Blue Jays?
19:32–35:40
6
How does the current pitching performance affect the team's chances?
35:40–45:16
7
What strategies are being discussed for managing the bullpen effectively?
45:16–48:52
8
What upcoming challenges do the Blue Jays face in their schedule?
48:52–1:17:22