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“I Realised Success Without Meaning Wasn’t Success at All.” — Purpose, EQ & Non-Linear Careers | Rich Hua
15 Dec 2025
What happens when success no longer feels meaningful?In this episode of At Work With…, I’m joined by Rich Hua — former founder of EPIC Leadership at Amazon and creator of EQ@Amazon — to talk about emotional intelligence, non-linear careers, and why compassion sits at the heart of true leadership.From immigrant beginnings to ministry, from Amazon to a bold new mission to bring EQ skills to a billion people, this conversation is thoughtful, human, and quietly powerful.00:00 – IntroWelcome to At Work With… + why this conversation matters02:10 – Leaving Amazon & What’s NextWhy Rich chose to step into a new chapter06:00 – Growing Up as an ImmigrantEarly identity, language barriers, and empathy10:30 – High IQ, Low EQWhat being “the smartest in the room” didn’t teach him14:40 – Ministry & Missionary WorkHow working with people shaped his emotional intelligence19:45 – Reinventing a Career at 40The Oracle story and betting on yourself25:30 – Building EQ@AmazonHow a side passion became a global movement30:50 – EPIC LeadershipEmpathy, Purpose, Inspiration & Connection explained35:40 – Compassion as LeadershipWhy EQ matters more than ever in an AI-driven world39:30 – EQ for a Billion PeopleRich’s vision for the future43:30 – Quick-Fire RoundPersonal, fun, and reflective questions47:30 – Closing ReflectionsWhat success really means now⏱️ Episode Chapters / TimestampsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richhua/Substack: https://substack.com/@richardhua
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