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Australian Finance Podcast

Sorting Out Superannuation

01 Apr 2019

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Chapter 1: What is superannuation and why should you care?

0.031 - 26.345 Owen Raskovich

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Welcome to the Australian Finance Podcast, a podcast for people who want to learn more about their personal finances and get the most from their money.

Chapter 2: How can you check if you're being paid super by your employer?

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This series is hosted by Kate Campbell from HowToMoney and Owen Raskovich from Rask Finance. The Australian Finance Podcast is provided for educational purposes only. The information is general in nature and does not take into account your needs, goals or objectives. What that means is the information does not apply to you specifically.

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So consider getting the advice of a licensed and trusted professional before acting on the information. Welcome to Episode 7 of the Australian Finance Podcast, Kate.

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125.661 - 126.242 Kate Campbell

Hi, Owen.

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Today we're talking about superannuation and making sure you have a super super and we're going to talk about all kinds of good stuff like why you need to take notice of it, simple ways to change, how to check for fees and insurance and how to get a little bit more out of it.

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and why you should care about it even though you probably can't touch it for 40 or 50 years well yeah so we'll that's right we'll talk about how money goes in and how it comes out and what exactly it does and we'll try and keep it short and concise and a little bit fun and enjoyable as we go yeah so did you want to tell people what super is or shall i

166.435 - 169 Kate Campbell

I think you can best sum that up.

169.02 - 182.368 Owen Raskovich

Okay. So super, it's a lot of mystery around it. It sounds like this would be a guy with a cape that's like doing something, but it's really not that bad. So a super fund is really just a fancy bank account and your money goes from...

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Typically, straight from your employer, if you're earning a sufficient amount of money, and what I mean by that is typically over $450 a month, or if you're under 18 and you're working full-time, you should get super. You'll see it appear on your payslip because the employer will pay that as part of your wage. It's around about 10%.

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9.5% is the current rate, but that's increasing over the next few years.

Chapter 3: What are the steps to change your super fund?

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And that money goes into a separate account managed by a super fund, which is like a company. Think of it like a company. And they invest in all different types of stuff. So we talked about it in the last episode how chances are if you've got super, you're already an investor and you don't know. Yeah. The super fund will invest on your behalf.

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So you're what we call a beneficiary of that money, but you don't own it in your own legal rights. So it's not in your name. You don't have to fill out forms. A super fund does that for you. And you'll get it at a certain time later on in life. So how old do you normally have to be to get super? Do you know?

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240.716 - 245.143 Kate Campbell

I think it was 65 or 70. The government seems to be pushing it back further and further. Yeah.

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245.41 - 258.991 Owen Raskovich

The answer is it depends and it's confusing. So I find super to be a very confusing thing and unnecessarily confusing thing. Basically, all you need to know is money goes in and money comes out, but you do have some control over what happens in the middle there.

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One of the reasons that people like to use super is exactly that reason is because it's kind of hands off and you can put your money in, let them deal with it and then just get it later in life. It's kind of like a forced savings, right? Yeah. But if you don't know where the money is or where it's invested, there's a chance and a very high likelihood that it could be invested incorrectly.

282.231 - 282.432 Kate Campbell

Yeah.

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If you're a young person and you're invested in the wrong thing, those are your best years for saving and investing.

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And it might be a bit too conservative for a 40, 50 year investment timeframe.

Chapter 4: How can you add extra money to your super?

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That's right. So if you're 21 years of age and you just happen to be up late one night and you check your super fund statement and you see that you're invested in things like bonds or even property or things like cash accounts, you should probably call your super fund because You really shouldn't be invested in that sort of stuff.

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Conversely, if you're 65 years old, you're about to retire, you've just popped a bottle of red and you're sitting on the couch and you're looking at your super statement and you find that you're 100% invested in shares, that's probably another red flag. So you probably want to call your super fund again. But ultimately, it's a really easy way to invest.

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329.967 - 342.816 Owen Raskovich

We touched on some of the ways to invest last time, in the last episode rather. Kate, can you tell us what's an easy way to check if you're being paid super, if your employer's doing the right thing?

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343.235 - 350.446 Kate Campbell

Well, once you've ascertained that your employer actually is paying you super, so check your payslip and it'll usually say where it's going.

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351.067 - 368.753 Kate Campbell

And if you didn't set it up yourself, you'll need to talk to your HR department or if you're just a small company, your boss, and work out where they're sending the default superannuation if you didn't tell them your super account because you'll just need to get some account details and then you'll be able to log in.

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But once you get those account details logged in, you'll be able to see on the website of the super company every transaction that's been incoming into your account and fees that might be coming out. So then some of the super companies have apps now. So you'll be able to just see and some send notifications, which I think is quite good to say you've been paid your super for this month. Yeah.

391.582 - 401.637 Kate Campbell

It's definitely important to check. Sometimes I think small businesses, they can pay the same amount but still less often. So I think it's quarterly.

401.718 - 411.092 Owen Raskovich

There's a bit of, I suppose, leeway for the different businesses to pay it. But typically you'd want to see money going in every three months.

411.072 - 425.284 Kate Campbell

Yeah. And it's definitely just because an employee has to do it doesn't mean they're necessarily doing the right thing. And sometimes when small businesses, especially even large ones, are under financial stress, they conveniently forget to pay employer superannuation.

Chapter 5: What types of insurance can you have within your super?

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You know, I'm going to drop some truths on you right now and say that most young people that work in a cafe or a casual store or something that's not a big brand, I would be checking your superannuation fund ASAP because I was at a Melbourne Uni thing last week and... This girl come up to me and she was probably 20 and she said, oh, I've just found out my employer's not paying my super fund.

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She worked for a cafe. She goes, this is the second employer that's done that to me. So there you go. So she's only 20 and she's had that done twice to her. And the easiest way to check is to go, like you said, to the super fund direct. So you just bypass the employer and just go straight to where the money should be going.

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465.443 - 469.769 Kate Campbell

Yeah. Well, I guess you've got to find out which super fund the employer is actually sending the money to.

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469.889 - 488.516 Owen Raskovich

And just on that, if you haven't already done so, you should have got a statement to select your super fund in the first, I think it's the first 30 days. They have to give you a form to say which super fund you want to go with. And if you don't select one, they'll pick one for you. And it might not be the best one. That's right. That's right. There's plenty of resources.

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We'll link to some in the show notes of some research on some dodgy super funds as well as some good ones.

493.743 - 508.48 Kate Campbell

And your employer doesn't necessarily know what's best for you. So they're just going to pick a default option. They might just pick whatever super fund's advertising at the moment. So definitely don't believe that they're just picking the best one. They're just picking whichever one.

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I should also say that if you work in a particular industry, you may end up with an industry super fund.

Chapter 6: What fees should you be aware of when choosing a super fund?

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Or if you work for a particular company, like a big company, like say, I'm just going to use an example. I don't know if this is actually the case, but say you work for Woolworths. Woolworths might have an agreement, say, with someone like AMP or a bank to use their super fund. So it's going to be quite difficult to wiggle out of that. But there are ways around it.

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That's what we call an enterprise bargaining agreement. And you may automatically be put into one of those. But just check. Just know where your money is going. This is your future. $1 now could be $20 in 30 years or $50 in 50. So just take note of where it's going. So let's put ourselves in the shoes, Kate, of someone that's, let's use this girl the other day.

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She doesn't know where her money's going. Let's say she's done a bit of research and she wants to change super funds. How would she do that?

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Well, generally, once you've worked out where your super fund is and you've got the account numbers and all the details set up, you can actually roll over the super fund into the next fund you've chosen. So you do need to choose somewhere for the money to go. You can't just send it to your own bank account. You don't get personal possession of the money.

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586.205 - 599.968 Kate Campbell

So you're going to have to identify the new superannuation fund you want to roll over to. And generally, I'm pretty sure the new fund wants the money. So they'll help you with this process and they'll provide you with the documentation to get the process rolling.

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Right. So if you say, I've got $10,000 in super and I want to take that to Superfund X, I would go to Superfund X and say, this is how much I've got. Can you bring it across for me?

610.552 - 613.298 Kate Campbell

I think that's how it works. I haven't personally done this process myself.

Chapter 7: How can you access your superannuation funds?

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Yeah, right. Okay. I know for certain that that's one way you can do it for sure. The other way is you can create a my.gov account. It's like the Australian government's version of like your all-in-one account.

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account yeah so it's got like centering sometimes takes hours and hours to work out how to use but uh super it's got everything i use it because i can see i've got access to all of my tax returns yeah it's got any medicare benefits you can file through there it'll tell you you're hexted as well that's one interesting thing i discovered when i finally got it to work that's scary yeah

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647.457 - 664.522 Owen Raskovich

So you could do that. But, yeah, you can create a MyGov account. That's how I consolidated. So I had, like, a bunch of different ones. Like I had, like, the military super. I had rest super for when I was, like, working in retail. And then I just wanted to change them all over. So I just did it all from there and you can just do it with a few clicks of a button.

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And it's good because it integrates with the ATO. So if there's something dodgy going on, the ATO may be able to see what's going on.

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671.572 - 688.469 Kate Campbell

Yeah. And often if you log into your superannuation provider, they'll have a tool there that says search for Lost Super because it's in their best interest to help you increase your funds with them. They want your money. So you can do search for Lost Super and they use your details, your TFN to find anything in your name.

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And even if you've just created an account and haven't put anything in there, it'll come up on the list because I've done a few tests once just to see the process. And suddenly it comes up on the list. You've got these accounts, even if there's no money.

Chapter 8: What are the common strategies for managing superannuation?

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But Then it's a good way to sort of find out using their free tools. Most super account.

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706.449 - 717.344 Owen Raskovich

Yeah, I know the big one that I'm with, I won't say who it is, but they offer that service too. And if you're confused, you can just call them, right? Like, you know, we love doing everything online and automatic.

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They've got plenty of people paid to take your calls.

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719.587 - 730.342 Owen Raskovich

That's right, yeah. Okay, so let's say... Again, I'm changing my super fund and I look at this one and it looks like it's done really well. Should I rely on that?

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So they're probably promoting their one-year returns. And if you're looking at a 40-year timeframe, the one-year return is not really important. You want to have a look at since inception returns. I'll usually say SI or maybe they'll just tell you 10 years. But you really want to have a look at that as long of a timeframe as possible because

748.96 - 771.34 Kate Campbell

your money's going to be there for 40 years so you really want to have a look at that long-term return and what they've done and also have a look at what's in the product so if if you're investing for 40 50 years you can afford to take a bit more risk as a young person i i think so um you don't really need to be 50 of your money in cash when you've got 40 years to go

771.404 - 776.818 Owen Raskovich

There's a few things there, you know, it's just don't go for the one that's necessarily the best performing from one year to the next.

777.58 - 788.248 Kate Campbell

Yeah, they'll often just default you to the balanced option and maybe that's right for you and maybe it's not, but definitely have a look and make a conscious decision if you're going to stay in it or if you're going to choose a different risk profile.

788.448 - 806.777 Owen Raskovich

Shameless self-promotion, but I'll put a link in the show notes. I think I did a video a few months ago about knowing what's aggressive, what's defensive, etc. So I'll put that in the show notes. But that can help you just understand what we mean by defensive, aggressive, conservative, etc. And then you can go onto the Superfunds website and just make sure they have the option.

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