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Australian True Crime

True Crime Tonight: Full Show (21/06/26)

21 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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Warning, this is a true crime segment and not suitable for children. It contains references to sexual violence and suicide, which some listeners may find distressing. If you need support, you are not alone. Contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or visit lifeline.org.au for 24-hour support. It's a voice that will send shivers down your spine. Stand off with police. Wanted fugitive. Stabbed 19 times.

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The suspect lured the victim into the woods. Biggest legal dramas in Hollywood. Today is a major win to show what the system can do. This is True Crime Tonight. True Crime Tonight.

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37.797 - 43.446 Meshel Laurie

Hello everybody, this is True Crime Tonight. I'm your host, Michelle Laurie, and I'm here with my producers, Matthew Tangard.

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Chapter 2: What are the details of the upcoming live shows?

43.626 - 62.877 Meshel Laurie

Hello. And Ruby Bartz. Hello. Hello. If you're just joining us, if you've just jumped in the car on a Sunday night and gone, what the hell? Well, have we got something for you. It's true crime tonight. For the next hour, we're talking true crime. We're talking documentaries, books, and we've got an interview coming up later in the show with a lady called Cece Moore.

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62.857 - 78.778 Meshel Laurie

If you are into true crime documentaries, I promise you've seen her because she is in all of them these days. She is a DNA detective. So hang in there for that. Don't let the kids hang in there, though, because this is a true crime show. It is not appropriate for them. Totes inappropriate.

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Chapter 3: How does the documentary 'Maternal Instinct' unfold?

78.798 - 102.912 Meshel Laurie

But for you, I'm feeling like I'm talking to the kids in your car right now. But for you, it's awesome. Up next, we're actually going to hear from a listener, which is my favourite bit of the show. And we've decided to call this the True Crime Hotline. What an incredible name. Thank you. I've been in radio for a long time. I like snappy titles for things. How do we receive them?

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102.932 - 104.494 Meshel Laurie

How do people send us a message, Matthew?

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104.714 - 113.983 Matthew Tankard

It's basically sending like a voicemail and you can find it in the show notes of any Australian True Crime Podcast episode or you can find us on social media at Australian True Crime Podcast.

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114.204 - 121.771 Phil Davis

There you go. Hey, Michelle, absolutely loving True Crime tonight. I think I'm your number one fan. Just wondering when you're doing a live show.

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Chapter 4: Who is CeCe Moore and what is her role in true crime?

121.871 - 123.373 Phil Davis

When am I going to get to see you live?

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123.353 - 133.482 Meshel Laurie

Oh, that's so sweet. And also I love that it comes from a man because we used to say that Australian true crime shows, we should sell tickets to men for meeting single women because that was...

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134.491 - 155.993 Meshel Laurie

look out and there were just like hundreds and hundreds of great women and no men there'd be like maybe literally two or three men who'd been dragged along by their girlfriends yeah but more men now and this is an example yes so we definitely will be doing iHeartLive events oh my god that's so exciting isn't that fun yeah it's like on Bruno Mars or something yeah an iHeartLive event that's how i feel

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155.973 - 174.759 Meshel Laurie

Right. And, yeah, so that will be definitely coming up. I love to have in every different city a local person. So I like to talk a local crime in Brisbane, a local crime in Adelaide. Haven't been to Perth yet. I know Perthlings are upset about that. But, no, I have not been there yet. Let's change that. Yeah. We haven't been to Tassie yet either.

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174.92 - 180.107 Meshel Laurie

So we'll definitely, now that we've got the iHeart juggernaut,

Chapter 5: How does CeCe Moore use DNA to solve cases?

180.087 - 198.636 Meshel Laurie

behind us. Heaven knows where we'll end up, but that will be the plan. I will definitely be grabbing. So if you know anyone, if you are someone in those cities around Australia who would love to jump on stage with me, talk me through a case and take some questions and answers from the audience, please contact me because we will be putting that together very soon.

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198.616 - 216.563 Meshel Laurie

Oh, and let's not forget that it was through one of these messages on our true crime hotline that we were sent away to watch Don't F with Cats again. There was a listener said, hey, what do you think about that documentary? And we realised, gosh, it's so long since we've watched it. We went back and watched it again, which was hard work, to be honest. I didn't want to watch it.

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216.603 - 230.245 Meshel Laurie

I found myself putting it on. Now, normally I'm more than happy to watch a good true crime documentary a couple of times. There are some that I watch annually. Mm-hmm. But this one I kept thinking, no, not today. It's the cat cruelty.

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Chapter 6: What ethical concerns arise from genetic genealogy?

230.285 - 236.176 Meshel Laurie

Yeah. And even though a human being died in this as well, this guy, Luke Magnotta.

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236.356 - 237.138 Matthew Tankard

Well, he's the killer.

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237.218 - 258.792 Meshel Laurie

He's the killer. He murdered a human as well. But what I like about it is there's a lot of conversation about why is it that we – True crime people are sort of dissociated from that. We get humans hurting humans. But as soon as you bring cats in, we're like, seriously, don't F with cats, mate. You can't do that.

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Well, yeah, so I went and watched it for the first time and I didn't even skip out the bits you told me not to.

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264.04 - 264.401 Meshel Laurie

You didn't?

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Well, this is it.

265.302 - 275.433 Meshel Laurie

Last time when we got this sort of challenge, I said to everyone, listen, if you Google... which are the worst bits for animal cruelty, you can find out and you can skip them.

Chapter 7: What insights does CeCe Moore provide about her work?

275.493 - 296.358 Meshel Laurie

Like, I never saw those. I wish I did. Oh, no, mate, no. I can't even see it. Listen, I've got a little bit of the trailer here for you to listen to. And just to either remind you or in case you've never seen it before, I cut the sound of cats out of this because it was so triggering for me. It was just kittens. you know, doing their beautiful little thing. And also because I foster kittens.

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296.658 - 309.859 Meshel Laurie

So it's like, oh God, I spend the entire summer trying to keep kittens alive. And hearing their beautiful little voices in this trailer, I was like, nah, I can't. So I cut it out. But here it is just to promote your memory.

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I was on Facebook one day. And I found this video.

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Chapter 8: What are the final thoughts on the discussed true crime cases?

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I pressed play. It was the worst video I've ever seen. People went nuts. So we started looking. He could have been anywhere on the planet. All of a sudden, another video appears. My mind doesn't want to believe it's true. Don't fuck with cats. It comes back to your question, Michelle, like hurting innocent animals that... It's the innocence. They can't defend themselves. They can't tell anyone.

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A human is so much bigger than them. Matthew, you're a cat guy.

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348.078 - 353.443 Matthew Tankard

Yes, I am. And I will, you know, I'll cover Joni's ears for this, but I did watch it with all the bits.

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353.663 - 355.104 Meshel Laurie

Joni's his cat, not his girlfriend.

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355.705 - 377.764 Matthew Tankard

Yes, well said. It really is just like, you know, there's no reason to kill a human, but there's definitely no reason to kill a cat. So it's very much like this person's a sadistic, evil person, you know? There's no, like, money involved. There's no romance. There's no passion. It's like you're doing it just for, like, hate's sake, you know?

377.744 - 401.507 Meshel Laurie

This documentary is also a great one for watching people use the internet, use their skills online for something amazing, which is catching this guy. Highly recommend, but skip the worst bits. Coming up next, we're going to be talking to Cece Moore. Is that next? That's next. Oh my gosh. She is, I love her so much. She pops up on all the documentaries now. She is the DNA detective.

401.487 - 412.824 Meshel Laurie

She just traces people's family trees. She'll get like a DNA sample and then she tracks these family trees up and down and sideways and everywhere and she identifies people.

413.264 - 422.638 Matthew Tankard

Yeah, I can't wait to hear from Cece more. But Ruby was telling me before we recorded that she just cannot wait to tell us about this true crime documentary that she needs to tell us about.

422.658 - 423.299 Meshel Laurie

Okay. So let's do that.

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