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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View

OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

10 Jun 2025

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0.031 - 13.759 Kevin Weil

We're in this transition from ChatGPT being a thing that answers questions to a product that actually goes and does tasks for you in the real world. You should be in control of any actions that it takes. The best way to do that is to kind of co-evolve together.

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13.779 - 20.993 Azeem Azhar

Sam has sort of talked a little bit about generational differences. So what is it like if you're in your early 20s, you're using ChatGPT?

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20.973 - 33.716 Kevin Weil

a core part of the way you operate your life. There's sort of an always-on nature. You realize that you have this super assistant in your pocket that can not just answer any question, but it can teach you anything that you want to learn.

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33.936 - 43.974 Azeem Azhar

How far out are model capabilities being delivered? Are there things that are being worked on today that might not make their way into models until mid-2026?

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44.094 - 61.02 Kevin Weil

It's unpredictable. Sometimes things take longer than expected. Other times you see these capabilities that you didn't expect at all that are kind of emergent and all of a sudden something just works. It's a completely different way of building products. Computers can like do things that they couldn't do two months ago and we're constantly in that state.

66.89 - 88.771 Azeem Azhar

Today, I'm so excited to welcome Kevin Weil. He is the Chief Product Officer of OpenAI, coming off the back of a storied career in companies like Twitter and Facebook. So much to talk about. So first of all, Kevin, thank you for making the time. You've been busy today already. It's morning in San Francisco, and you've already launched some things.

88.791 - 95.718 Kevin Weil

Yes, we have. And thank you so much for having me. It's my first live Substack, so I'm excited. but hopefully many more to come.

96.059 - 107.713 Azeem Azhar

You are really keeping us on your toes. And so just an hour before we went live, there was another spate of product launches from OpenAI. What do they tell us about your vision for ChatGPT and where the product is going?

107.753 - 125.958 Kevin Weil

The biggest thing that we launched this morning, we launched like six different things this morning, but I think the most important one kind of for the long-term future of AI is we launched a series of connectors that can connect to your either personal data or if you're an enterprise, your enterprise data.

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