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Episode 4720: It's Time To End Mail In Voting; Fighting Back For Food Security
20 Aug 2025
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Chapter 1: What is the primal scream of a dying regime?
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann. It's Wednesday, 20 August, Year of Our Lord 2025.
Thank you for being here for the second hour of the morning edition. We're also going to be on fire in the afternoon edition. We've got so much. Four hours a day, we can't even wedge it all in. I've got Philip Patrick. I've got Steve Cortez. I'm going to get back to Steve Cortez in a moment and bring in Philip Patrick after, just after.
We've got Senator Mike Lee by phone, and I need to take Senator Lee because this goes back to my open... about 2026 and beyond. Senator Mike Lee, thank you. And it's so great to have you here because we always look to you to help us out with the constitution and the constitutionality of things. The three aspects of everything that's going on, one, the president calling for
A mid-decade census that's done right, done correctly, done of illegal aliens, but also doesn't have all the problems that the Commerce Department had last time. Also, the redistricting fight and folks, I think we're getting very close to a vote in Texas, but it's not good enough. We need a Texas 10, not the five that was originally there because the Democrats try to be cute.
There's more seats down there. We have to be maximalist. Number three is this thing about mail-in ballots. And so, Senator Lee, I know you've got a thread and you're very focused on this. Correct me if I'm wrong. Is the great state of Utah, is that 100 percent mail-in ballots like Colorado or you guys just use mail-in ballots a lot, sir? No, we've been using universal mail-in voting.
and for a long time. In fact, we adopted it significantly before COVID. In some respects, one could argue that Utah does it better than other states. Nonetheless, the risks remain. The risks have proven themselves to be inherent in the nature of mail-in balloting. Look, you don't just print out millions of ballots and send them out like feathers in the wind into the US mail system.
There are too many potential points of failure. And so even if you're a state like Utah that probably does mail-in balloting better than others,
doesn't mean that what is safer than other states today will remain safer tomorrow, nor does it mean that it's adequately safe even for today, simply because of the fact that you've got chain of custody problems that amplify themselves exponentially the minute you put it into the hands of the U.S. postal system. The U.S. postal system is good for what it's good for.
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Chapter 2: How does Senator Mike Lee view mail-in voting in Utah?
So today it's like, why are we doing this, particularly in a system that's so open? to manipulation and corruption. How do you expect to get this done in Utah? And then how do you expect to take this, what President Trump wants to do? He's going to have a very tough executive order I know they're working on right now.
What would you like to see in that executive order to help you on your crusade to get it shut down everywhere in the country?
Well, first and foremost, anything coming out of the White House in the form of an executive order or otherwise, I think can be very helpful to us, especially insofar as it emphasizes problems that the administration has uncovered, ways in which these things have been abused and manipulated. I can't speak to what they intend to actually do in the executive order.
I just haven't been read in on any of that. I really don't know what they have in mind, but I know that President Trump has led the way, and I think President Trump's vocal advocacy on this has been very effective.
I know they've got, because of the messages coming from the White House and from President Trump himself, we've got lawmakers who are much more interested in this as a result of his direct involvement. So the more of that we can get, the better off we're going to be.
Before I let you go, Senator Lee, you led the effort, the great effort to support President Trump for recess, a true recess and a recess appointment. It's pretty obvious to anyone associated with the administration is that given the lack of manpower we've had on these billets just to get in. And I mean, I'm talking about the U.S. attorneys. I'm talking about just the staff.
these billets in the executive branch, that it's not just people working overtime. Things are falling through the crack for the simple reason we just don't have the manpower President Trump needs. Is there any update at all you can give us on when we can expect?
I understand they may change some rules on the margin, but the bottom line, I believe, is that at some point in time, we're going to have to have John Thune in the leadership, the McConnell-backed leadership of the Senate, have President Trump's back here and have some sort of a true recess when we get recess appointments.
Any update at all on anything you've been working on while we're on this quote-unquote non-recess recess? Yeah, look, there are members of the Senate who demanded when we left that that as soon as we come back into session, either the first or second week of September, when we're back in session, that we will be considering some possible rules changes that would help expedite that.
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Chapter 3: What are the risks associated with mail-in ballots?
I know you put in stuff all the time. Where do people go to get to your social media to find out more about what you're thinking, sir? You can follow my thinking on this on X at based Mike Lee, based Mike Lee. And it is quite based. It's a great Twitter feed. Senator Lee, thank you for taking time off to join us today in the warm explaining this. Appreciate you. Thanks so much, Steve. Take care.
Thank you, brother. Steve Cortez. I've got Philip Patrick with us. And actually, in a short while, Eduardo Bolsonaro. And, you know, a lot of this is coming out of the BRICS nations and led by Lula. Walk me through again the defense of the dollar. I want to ā because I know we've got all kind of economic problems here. But go back to your ā you're in Jackson Hole, right, even as we speak.
And I know the president is anticipating ā Some acknowledgement of a rate cut. I'm not so sure that's coming because I think pound these guys are dug in. By the way, what are you what you're thinking on the rate cut? Where do you come down? Are you part of this group that says they've miscalculated where real natural interest rates should be and that there should be a rate cut, sir?
Well, listen, I am, of course, no fan of Powell or, for that matter, the Fed on the whole. However, in this case, I think they're actually correct. When you look at what's going on with the dollar, when you look at what's going on with grocery prices, I think cutting rates right now is dangerous. If rates are going to be cut, I'll tell you this. It must be coincided.
It must be coincident with a very significant campaign to back up the dollar. That is, I think, absolutely dangerous.
paramount that is an imperative if rates are going to come down we have to try to defend the dollar because part of the erosion of buying power of regular americans a big reason why they continue to tell us in polling that they have tremendous economic anxiety even though they don't know it it's it's a currency issue it's because their buying power is eroding because the dollar is eroding so i think this is absolutely key and again this is not my opinion i mean just look at the levels look at bitcoin
Look at gold. Look at even the euro currency for all the problems of Europe. The euro currency is having a great year against the US dollar. That is not consequence-free. And it's, again, to translate it back to politics and polling, it's why half of Americans give an E or an F grade to the administration on inflation right now. And that's in Georgia. That's an estate that is leaning Republican.
But when we ask them to give a letter grade, 48% of women, 48% of independents tell us they give a D or an F to the administration. And that women number is very important, by the way, because they are generally the CFOs of the household. They tend to do more shopping. They pay the bills. So they are the accountants. They're the CFOs. And in that regard, their view is particularly important here.
Now, having said all that, Steve, look, the Fed is utterly corrupt. And one of the things I'm trying to talk So here in Jackson Hole, I'm trying to talk to as many reporters as I can, because most of the media folks are already here. Is will you please give some real scrutiny to the Fed? I mean, the fact that the Fed governor is likely to be imminently indicted.
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Chapter 4: How did Utah become involved with mail-in voting?
So given that, and I hear this from a lot of people that gold is at, you know, what, 3,400 bucks or around, it fluctuates a little bit. How are people supposed to think about this when Steve Cortez said, hey, look, it was part of the math here.
And my phone's already blowing up from people, particularly people on fixed incomes are saying, hey, look, I'm feeling that decline in the value of the dollar. So what are people to do here and to think through this entire mess, sir? Look, I think you've just got to understand a little bit about gold. So gold's been performing very well, as we've seen since I've come on the show.
It's just been going up and up and up, obviously a coincidence. But I'm hearing from people, are gold prices too high? And the answer, I think, is absolutely not. You've just got to start looking at it in the right way. So first of all, for some historical context, where we are today with gold prices, 33, 42, and some change. This is essentially where we were in the 1980s, right?
1980, January, after the stagflationary bow of the 70s, gold peaked at around $850 an ounce. If we adjust that to inflation, today that sits at around $3,300. So this isn't new territory in terms of prices. We have to remember a few differences from the 1980s and today, right? Back in the 1980s, There were options. Money in the bank, CDs were paying 16%.
You could beat inflation sitting in the bank. Those options just don't exist today. We also have to look at gold in terms of an asset class. This is a commodity that isn't like oil or wheat, right? Look at with most commodities, high prices will kill demand or boost supply, or they're going to do both. And then ultimately, they're consumed or used up. Gold is very different. Supply barely grows.
It's 1% a year, regardless of what happens to price. So price is set by those who are willing to sell, not by new supply. So it's a very unique commodity in that respect. And then here's the big ones. Who's buying gold today? It's central banks, as we've talked for the last three and a half years, setting consecutive records. But people have to understand one thing about gold.
There is no ceiling on its price when money breaks, right? We talk a lot about the dollar, devaluation of the dollar, de-dollarization. Kenneth Rogoff said this back in 2016. He said, gold has no limit to its price. And he's absolutely right. Look at Weimar Germany, right? An ounce of gold before World War I was 170 marks. Ten years later, after a hyperinflationary bout,
87 trillion marks it took to buy one ounce of gold, right? So gold is a reflection of currency. And ultimately, gold will go as high as currency goes low. And what history has shown us is there is no bottom for currency. So when we talk about dollar devaluation and why people should buy gold, this is exactly why. Look at investment banks now scrambling to up their predictions.
Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, UBS, Bank of America. all say over $4,000 within the next six to eight months. So this is a market, I think, that will continue to move. And I'll go back to what you say. Don't look at gold's price. Look at the fundamentals driving gold. They are strengthening every single day, Steve.
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Chapter 5: What changes does Senator Lee propose for voting integrity?
That's what we're trying to do with the end of the dollar empire. Just go then. It's been four years. And, you know, I hate to be so blunt, but we've called this from the very beginning. And if you go back and look at the chapters and we try to build this up so you understand really back to the beginning of the country, we go back to the foundation.
We go back how big currency was, how big tariffs, the whole thing, all economics were such a part of the founding process. of the nation, so much part really of the revolution that's never really talked about. Number one, most historians just don't understand it. Currency itself was a hot political topic.
This was the rise of not just Jackson and the populace about he wanted to get rid of the Bank of the United States at that time, but later William Jennings Bryan. Remember, don't nail me to a cross of gold. The whole thing of currency, greenbacks, how we financed the Civil War. It's fascinating, but it's important to your life today. to understand it. That's what we try to do.
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And more importantly, we're going to do some other very special things that we're working on right now. We'll talk to you about it. Philip, before I let you go, one of the things is that President Trump, you know, he's whipping votes on Big Beautiful Bill.
They didn't give him a recess, so he doesn't have his staff, you know, the people in the second and third tier people that you need to actually make things happen. He's cleaned up Washington, D.C., I think in 72 hours or in the process of it. So many things going on. And now he's, you know, doing the negotiation for peace in Ukraine. The same time they're coming back to him on the Gaza situation.
I mean, the guy's got... Any one of these problems would have broken a previous president. One thing I'm most concerned about is I don't think the House and the Senate and other surrogates are doing enough to go out and sell the big, beautiful bill in the supply side part of it. Give me a minute on that. We've got about 90 seconds.
Give me a minute on that about just the process of selling the big, beautiful bill to the American people, the details of it. I think people need to understand that austerity is not going to do the job here.
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Chapter 6: How does the current political landscape affect legislative changes?
The only way to do this is to grow the economy and to do it at a rapid pace. I agree with... With Malpass, I mean, the bill is absolutely important. We need a good environment for growth. I think it's why the Federal Reserve do have to lower rates a little bit. I was torn listening to Malpass and Cortez because I understand both sides of it. But what we need right now is an injection of growth.
Chapter 7: What role does President Trump play in the mail-in voting debate?
We need to do it fast. President Trump has done an incredible job. Even I've been surprised with the amount of Revenue he's generated through tariffs, but also the amount of investment he's attracted to the United States. But we need to push his bill forward. At the end of the day, as you say, he's dealing with so many issues.
I don't think there's many people on the face of this earth that could balance that. We've got to trust President Trump. We've got to let him do what he does best and try and put some rocket fuel on this economy because it needs it badly now. Take your phone out and text Bannon, B-A-N-N-O-N at 989898.
You get your free access to the ultimate guide, which is totally free, of investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. And you get to Philip Patrick and team. Philip, I know it's early out where you are. Thank you so much for joining us. Look forward to seeing you and talking about the Fed maybe later in the week. Philip Patrick of Birch Gold. Short commercial break.
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Since Lula is trying to lead the de-dollarization effort because he hates the United States, he's a Marxist, he's in business with and a partner of the Chinese Communist Party, I might say a junior communist. partner of the Chinese Communist Party. Eduardo, big announcement coming out of state the other day.
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Chapter 8: How can listeners stay informed about these political issues?
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