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Baseball Isn’t Boring

We're Ranting And Raving About The Big Mets/Rangers Trade

24 Nov 2025

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Chapter 1: What was the big trade between the Mets and Rangers about?

0.031 - 3.116 Julian McWilliams

Yeah, there should be some passion. This doesn't have to be boring.

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4.378 - 12.031 Evan O'Brien

You don't get bored, my bitch. Okay, one thing the game needs is more people like you. You. You. You. You. You. You.

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12.071 - 20.025 Von Miller

You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You.

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20.486 - 41.18 Rob Bradford

You. You. You. One of these two people I have on the podcast today, there's nobody I'd rather have on. We're going to have to guess which two. It's going to be the big mystery. It's going to be like Da Vinci Code, trying to figure out who. We have Julian McWilliams of CBS Sports. Say hello.

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41.2 - 51.734 Julian McWilliams

Hello. I'm eating chicken soup because my daughter, I haven't eaten anything all day. I feel like I'm about to pass out. So here's my commitment to the brand. Listen.

52.055 - 52.195

Listen.

52.799 - 77.583 Rob Bradford

Because I have a story about myself with everything anybody says. Anytime anyone eats on the podcast, I immediately go back to when Mookie Betts used to do a series of about three straight years of 27-minute podcasts one time a year from 16 through 18. And he would eat during them. But I always said... Eating, when they're eating during them, it's like swearing.

77.944 - 85.033 Rob Bradford

You just know they're in the rocking chair. Just some guys just eating and talking. Just eating and talking. Eating and talking.

85.053 - 85.794 Julian McWilliams

This is why I'm here.

Chapter 2: How do the hosts feel about Marcus Semien's move to the Mets?

348.348 - 350.531 Evan O'Brien

And people are like, these City Connects stink.

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350.551 - 363.15 Rob Bradford

Yeah, so Sammy from Playtasty had a great tweet. He's like, what did he say? Next year, City Connects uniformed? All you just have is Aroldis Chapman's muscles.

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363.13 - 367.597 Evan O'Brien

just all like the ligaments in every part of his body when he's throwing. I'm like, this is kind of wild.

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367.657 - 388.108 Rob Bradford

The CBS sports, do they tell you, they say, Hey, listen, like kind of like in that movie, uh, uh, knocked up where they like, just, you know, just 20, just, you know, like just 20, you look great. We just, you know,

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388.392 - 395.031 Julian McWilliams

Fortunately, Rob, you got to me before they could say anything. So there you go.

395.091 - 421.352 Rob Bradford

That's why you are hired. They would have never hired a non-alcoholic beer, chicken wing, Julian. No way. You're welcome. I'm making dreams come true. Anyway, speaking of making dreams come true, there was a huge trade, and this makes everyone in baseball's dreams come true because we sort of hit this spot before the winter meetings with absolutely nothing was going on.

421.973 - 435.094 Rob Bradford

I was defaulting to so much WBC stuff, it was nuts. So... Oh, what do you got? Who you got? You got a dog? My wife's dog. Oh, not your dog? No. I like that. Yeah.

435.815 - 438.4 Evan O'Brien

You really do. You decide which ones are yours.

438.46 - 444.069 Julian McWilliams

Yeah. I didn't want this one anyway. Yeah. It's my emotional support animal.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of Brandon Nimmo joining the Rangers?

771.623 - 773.927 Evan O'Brien

Like, what is going on? This makes no sense.

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773.947 - 775.789 Rob Bradford

No, you didn't like the trade. You didn't like the trade.

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775.829 - 796.281 Evan O'Brien

Yeah, no. It's just kind of funny because it feels like ever since I stopped the initial thing, I've been reading all this stuff. SMY is breaking news coverage. They're talking about, like, well, here's why it would happen. Then I've kind of come around on it being like, okay, if that means adding an outfielder that's not as shitty as Brandon Nimmo in left field, so be it.

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796.261 - 814.189 Evan O'Brien

But in the interim, I was like, Marcus Simeon's 35. Granted, he's good defensively, but his bat is falling off a cliff. Brandon Nemo just had his best offensive season, I think, overall. So it was kind of like if you're just looking at it strictly that player for that player, I was like, this is a dumb trade.

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814.63 - 826.648 Rob Bradford

You know, he's fired up when he says shitty. I know. Julian, that was the initial. Yeah. Julian, what do you think? What's going on?

827.469 - 829.612 Julian McWilliams

Evan, I love you, man.

830.334 - 833.338 Rob Bradford

I love the work that you do. He's probably going to be wrong.

834.044 - 852.647 Julian McWilliams

Uh, but I respectfully disagree on this accord. I get the contract situation where you're talking about, but I'm gonna bring in another element. The Mets wanted it. We're grown up in the room, right? As much as we think that Francisco Lindor is a grown up in the room. From what I heard, he's not from a lot of people.

854.029 - 870.592 Julian McWilliams

As much as we heard about all him, the Soto isn't a thing from the people I spoke to. It is. There is a thing between those two guys, uh, For what you alluded to with Brandon Nemo, he's a guy that can get emotional.

Chapter 4: What are the financial aspects of the Mets/Rangers trade?

1222.03 - 1246.046 Rob Bradford

I mean, he would be part of the solution. All I'm saying is that, like... I don't think it's a bad trade for either team because it fits both teams. And we can't get obsessed with, well, Brendan Nimmo has been there forever, so he knows what it's like. And that whole thing about him being a leader or what was it? What was the Adelvino thing about how Nimmo?

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1247.327 - 1257.441 Evan O'Brien

Well, the other part of it, which he didn't really get as in-depth in, but he was just saying like the whole, everybody was saying like, oh, Lindor's our captain. He was another guy that was like, eh. I don't know if I said that.

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1257.501 - 1285.772 Rob Bradford

Whatever, man. Like, whatever. And I think that Julian's perspective, that's why it's so good because I knew that Julian knew Simeon really well. And, you know, I think, Evan, you follow Nimmo quite a bit. And I just think that my biggest takeaway here is that, A, it's okay to turn things over on both sides. And, B, thank you, baseball. Thank you, people. Like we're just doing a baseball trade.

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1285.852 - 1309.34 Rob Bradford

I mean, how many years we talk about this all the time. I remember talking to Falvey about that. I mentioned the Uri for Pablo Lopez trade. You mentioned the ward for a Grayson Rodriguez trade. Well, that that's a little like convoluted weird, but still it's just here. This guy for that guy. There it is. That's it. And in this case, we're not talking about deferring money.

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1309.4 - 1318.83 Rob Bradford

We're not talking about saving money. We're just talking about two guys. That's it. That is it. Yay, baseball.

1318.85 - 1330.181 Evan O'Brien

There you go. I did find it ironic, too, that Nimmo's ended up going to the Rangers after being a lifelong Met along with DeGrom. And apparently he consulted DeGrom about like, so what do you like?

1330.201 - 1344.778 Rob Bradford

Again, perfect example. Thank you for bringing that up. Yeah. Jacob DeGrom switched teams. Did the world come to an end? No. You know what happened? No. You know, the Mets actually made it to the NLCS. Yeah. You know, it's incredible. Yeah.

1345.739 - 1365.361 Julian McWilliams

It's incredible. Absolutely incredible. I mean, and again, I don't think – like, well, it did contribute. Like, Brandon Nimble not doing well. But, like, I think there are a lot of other names that – I'll say this. Francisco Lindor, dude, you got to play a full season. You got to contribute for a full season.

1366.062 - 1382.62 Julian McWilliams

There can't be these times where – and that's my problem with Julio Rodriguez that I had. Obviously, he had a great World Series, and I know if I'm getting a little bit off topic. But you can't be a superstar or star in my book and, oh, I get hot late. Because you know what? Those games in April and May matter.

Chapter 5: How do the hosts analyze the strengths and weaknesses of both players?

1661.943 - 1676.633 Evan O'Brien

Because it was, like, Nimmo's homegrown. He's been there forever. Alonzo's homegrown. He's been there forever. Lindor's been here for, I think, like, six or seven years or something like that at this point. So I did think it was kind of stupid to keep running it back. So I, like, I was kind of of the belief, like...

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1676.613 - 1690.847 Evan O'Brien

Jeff McNeil seemed like the most obvious guy to trade just because they have a ton of young guys coming up. And also, I was just like, he's versatile, but he doesn't really do anything crazy well. He's kind of just like pretty good at everything. So I always thought like, we'll definitely get rid of him.

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1690.867 - 1709.21 Evan O'Brien

And then I wasn't really of the belief like we need to bring back Alonzo and we need to bring back Diaz. I felt like Diaz was probably more important than Alonzo, but I just wasn't sure who you're going after in free agency because I didn't know if like... Because some of the things they've been throwing out is like, we'll have Vientos and McNeil platoon at first base to replace Alonzo.

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1709.23 - 1712.495 Evan O'Brien

I'm like, that's going to be one of the worst platoons I've ever seen.

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1712.515 - 1718.365 Rob Bradford

I'll ask you guys separately. Do you guys think Alonzo ends up back with the Mets? Evan first.

1720.201 - 1741.765 Evan O'Brien

Originally, I would have said yes, but since they really are going full-on defensive, I wouldn't be shocked. But can't he just DH? He could DH, but then you've got to find a first base. Because Vientos, if you're going full-on defense, Vientos has the worst glove I've ever seen in my life. McNeil, I don't know if he's a good first base, but you'd have to sign a Ty France or something, I guess.

1741.825 - 1752.996 Julian McWilliams

That's not going to work. We've seen this happen over and over, Rob. with trying to platoon first base and it's never seems to work out.

1753.236 - 1761.449 Evan O'Brien

Like I've seen when Julian goes on SOI and they're like, Soto could just move to first. That's no big deal. It's like, that's a shit show. That's a shit show happening.

1761.809 - 1765.395 Rob Bradford

People are watching Julian. There we go. There we go.

Chapter 6: What was the initial reaction to the trade from fans and analysts?

2066.174 - 2073.823 Rob Bradford

Honestly, Evan. Friday, we were talking about, oh my goodness, look at the 40-man roster protections.

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2074.183 - 2079.69 Julian McWilliams

We could have went with, what does this trade, what does the Brendan Bernardino trade mean for the Rockets?

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2083.634 - 2096.989 Rob Bradford

Oh, God. Anyway, all right. Well, the last thing is, let me give you, I'm going to write this down. Give me the first big-name free agent who will sign. All right? Evan, go ahead.

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2098.96 - 2118.606 Evan O'Brien

considering the reliever markets already moved a tad bit I'm going to say Diaz if he's considered big name if not then I can come up with a different name but I'll say Edwin Diaz alright Julian Bichette with who

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2119.227 - 2120.291 Julian McWilliams

Toronto.

2120.311 - 2121.134 Rob Bradford

Okay. All right.

2121.154 - 2123.763 Julian McWilliams

This is, this is, he has to go back. You can't go out like that.

2124.085 - 2137.152 Rob Bradford

Okay. Now I'm going to go, I'm going to go with Kenley Jansen. Anyway, I lost 18 pounds. All right. All right. Thank you.

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