Becker Private Equity & Business Podcast
What We Think When People Say They Are Paying it Forward 5-2-25
Fri, 02 May 2025
In this episode, Scott shares the results of a Twitter poll on the often mixed motivations behind altruistic claims like “I’m just trying to pay it forward”.
Chapter 1: What does 'paying it forward' really mean?
This is Scott Becker with the Becker Private Equity and Business Podcast. Today's discussion comes out of a discussion I had the last few days at one of our conferences where somebody boldly proclaims to me, I'm just trying to pay it forward. And when they say that, I'm immediately taken aback because I'm a believer that let's say I do something for charity.
Chapter 2: What are the mixed motivations behind altruism?
When somebody does something for charity, and that would be maybe one example of paying it back or giving it forward or whatever you want to call it, there are usually multiple motivations for giving to charity. You want to feel good about yourself. You want to help others. You want to be recognized for your charity. You want somebody to know that you did it.
Chapter 3: Why do people claim to pay it forward?
There are lots of different reasons why people do things. And what I find is almost always the motivations are mixed. They're not just pure. It's not just because you're trying to just give it back. So when I hear somebody say, I passed on a great job and took this job, because all I really want to do is pay it forward and give it back.
Chapter 4: What was Scott's reaction to hearing 'pay it forward'?
I am always a little bit, I mean, I'll tell you what my real response is. My real response is, I want to slap the person silly because I think they're so damn disingenuous or so lacking a self-awareness. So that's my real response. Slap them silly. But I was trying to figure out, am I alone in this thought? And am I just a bad person for believing that they're so full of BS?
Chapter 5: What did the Twitter poll reveal about people's beliefs?
And so what I did is, which I often do, is we did a Twitter poll on this. When somebody says to you, I do what I do to pay it forward and to give back. Do you take them at their word? Do you think they are full of crap? Do you look at them strangely? Do you take it with a grain of salt?
So what I found was our audience, at least our pollies, the people that filled out the poll, are overall less skeptical people than I am. So 29% said, take them at their word. 5% said, look at them strangely. 19% said they're full of crap. They're full of BS was the word we used in the poll. And finally, 47% said, take it with a grain of salt.
So maybe people do see it like me, but I was so caffeinated when the person said this, I literally just wanted to smack the person. And of course, I would never do that because you can't do that, particularly at a conference, professional business conference. Somebody says something that sounds so disingenuous, you just want to slap them.
But you're not allowed to in today's society, which is right, which is good. You can't slap the person who says this kind of thing or punch them or do whatever you want to do because it's just not appropriate. But you can take it with a grain of salt. 47% agreed with me to take it with a grain of salt. 90% probably agreed with me even further that they're full of crap, full of BS. 5%.
took the position I actually took, which is to look at them strangely. And then 29% said, take them at their word. And that's the most generous group of people in the world. So I applaud that extra 29% that said to take them at their word. I'd really like to break down, do they really believe that or not? Are they just saying it in response to Paul? But it's anonymous, Paul.
So you can say whatever you want. In any event, I found it to be a fascinating discussion. I can't stand people that are so obviously, to me, so disingenuous. We're all somewhat self-motivated in different ways. Some people are more giving than others. No question about it. But even when we're giving.
Few of us have the ego to not want to have some recognition or some thank you or some appreciation for that giving. In any event, I found it to be a fascinating discussion. I hope I haven't offended anybody too much. But the concept of that we are just doing this to pay it forward, to give it back, is enough to often leave me with a great sense of nausea.
Thank you for listening to the Becker Private Equity and Business Podcast. If you listen to this podcast and you like it or hate it, if you think I'm a horrible person or a good person for thinking like this about the person who said this, feel free to text me 773-766-5322. And I'll be happy to send you the first one, a $50 Amazon gift certificate.
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