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Behind the Bastards

How ICE Is Targeting Students for Deportation

Fri, 04 Apr 2025

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Garrison and James discuss how a doxing campaign is targeting student visa and green card holders for alleged ties to pro-Palestine protests. Sources:  https://apnews.com/article/columbia-university-mahmoud-khalil-ice-15014bcbb921f21a9f704d5acdcae7a8  https://archive.ph/20250316111414/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/16/nyregion/mahmoud-khalil-columbia-university.html  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/15/nyregion/columbia-student-kristi-noem-video.html  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/25/nyregion/columbia-university-protester-chung-deportation.html  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/25/columbia-gaza-protester-yunseo-chung-lawsuit  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/24/nyregion/columbia-student-ice-suit-yunseo-chung.html  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/01/us/politics/cornell-student-momodou-taal.html  https://apnews.com/article/social-media-immigration-applicants-handles-dhs-f67b480abebff7e451056be17572593d  https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/exclusive-trump-admin-spies-on-social?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=7677&post_id=160081190&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=1aiy5i&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email  https://apnews.com/article/georgetown-trump-deportation-immigration-homeland-security-21fc205cebbbbba2ed260050df04702a  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/29/us/rumeysa-ozturk-tufts-student-detained.html  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/01/us/israel-gaza-student-protests-canary-mission.html  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/14/israel-betar-deportation-list-trump  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-administration-takes-aim-immigrant-students-rcna198346  https://apnews.com/article/immigration-detainees-students-ozturk-khalil-78f544fb2c8b593c88a0c1f0e0ad9c5f  https://x.com/janashortal/status/1905759411248734353   https://dailyegyptian.com/120974/news/international-siu-student-has-visa-revoked-confirms-university-admin/  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SGz224raVR8mHMzC6q-6EUiNcBKD6BSK/view See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: What actions did ICE take against students?

1914.892 - 1921.834 Roger Caron (clip)

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1922.154 - 1926.516 ICE Agent

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only to find himself back where he started.

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1966.584 - 1991.15 Garrison Davis

All right, we're back. So right now, the two main vectors for ICE detention, whether you have a green card or a visa, seems to be previous arrests or these mass doxing campaigns. Now, someone like Mahmoud Khalil was never arrested or charged with a crime, but instead has been the target of harassment from both a local campus doxing account run by Columbia professors and fellow students,

1991.85 - 2010.521 Garrison Davis

as well as larger right-wing Zionist organizations like Canary Mission. A few days before being arrested by ICE, Canary Mission posted a video naming Khalil as a quote-unquote siren emoji, suspected foreign national alert. So what is Canary Mission, if you're lucky enough to be unaware?

Chapter 2: Who is Mahmoud Khalil and what happened to him?

2367.724 - 2385.882 James Stout

The only time this normally affects international students I'm aware of, as a person who now teaches students, is they can't drop below a certain course load when otherwise they may wish to drop below a certain course load to either focus on the They might have like a research position. They might be doing other stuff on campus, like TAing, right?

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2386.262 - 2407.097 James Stout

Sometimes that TAing counts towards their course load. Sometimes it doesn't, but it can affect things like that. But generally it would be the university that would update that status, right? That would notify US Customs and Immigration if somebody fell out of compliance with that. If I'm hearing right, that doesn't seem like that's what happened here, right?

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2407.478 - 2431.335 Garrison Davis

No. Simply, his entry visa expired. So if he left the country, he then would have to get another visa to get back in. But he can stay as long as he still has his valid student status. So not only is ICE trying to revoke these visas, but they're trying to essentially say that by revoking these visas, they are also attempting to strip them of their student status, which is like a separate step.

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2432.076 - 2434.478 Garrison Davis

These things can get kind of very blurry, though.

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2435.535 - 2442.297 James Stout

Yeah, like I don't quite know how that works in terms of like, are ICE supposed to be able to? I don't think it hugely matters at this point.

2442.317 - 2449.238 Garrison Davis

Technically, the State Department does have that ability, but it's under the same like foreign policy risk designation.

2449.258 - 2449.779 James Stout

Okay.

2450.539 - 2457.901 Garrison Davis

And they'll justify it by saying, well, his visa already expired. So we're just removing him because his visa expired, even though that's not really how this works.

2458.421 - 2463.582 James Stout

Yeah, and they don't have to remove him for that reason. But yeah, in this case, I guess they're going for something else.

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