All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file. Anarchism In Mexico feat. Andrew, Pt. 1 Anarchism In Mexico feat. Andrew, Pt. 2 War Update The Gang Reviews Andor Season 2, Ep. 10-12 Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #17 You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “Cooler Zone Media” and subscribe today! http://apple.co/coolerzone Sources/Links: Anarchism In Mexico feat. Andrew https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/chuck-morse-anarchism-in-mexico https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/angel-cappelletti-anarchism-in-latin-america Kirk Shaffer’s “Tropical Libertarians: Anarchist movements and networks in the Caribbean, Southern United States, and Mexico, 1890s–1920s” (https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/steven-j-hirsch-lucien-van-der-walt-anarchism-and-syndicalism-in-the-colonial-and-postcolonial#toc97) War Update https://anfenglishmobile.com/kurdistan/pkk-final-declaration-activities-under-the-pkk-name-have-ended-79294 https://anfenglishmobile.com/features/cemil-bayik-we-are-now-developing-a-new-paradigm-a-second-manifesto-79403 https://anfenglishmobile.com/features/new-message-from-abdullah-Ocalan-79417 https://anfenglishmobile.com/rojava-syria/mazloum-abdi-we-hope-all-relevant-parties-take-the-necessary-steps-79319 https://jacobin.com/2025/05/kashmir-india-pakistan-cease-fire-democracy https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/14/did-pakistan-shoot-down-five-indian-fighter-jets-what-we-know https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgvr4r5d2qo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyn617xv4no https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/conflict-between-india-and-pakistan https://www.brookings.edu/articles/lessons-for-the-next-india-pakistan-war/ https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/18/world/asia/india-pakistan-conflict.html Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #17 https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69775896/dvd-v-us-department-of-homeland-security/ https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.282404/gov.uscourts.mad.282404.111.0.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.282404/gov.uscourts.mad.282404.111.0.pdf https://www.refworld.org/policy/countrypos/unhcr/2024/en/147589 https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/04/09/south-sudan-incendiary-bombs-kill-burn-civilians https://www.npr.org/2025/05/19/nx-s1-5403712/supreme-court-tps-venezuelans https://bsky.app/profile/joshuajfriedman.comhttps://bsky.app/profile/qjurecic.bsky.social/post/3lppd7wq7jc2h https://www.sfgate.com/centralcoast/article/potential-ice-raid-thwarted-central-california-20335765.php https://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/report/052025_ice_court_arrests/mayhem-as-ice-officials-arrest-multiple-people-immigration-court-phoenix/ https://www.latimes.com/california/newsletter/2025-05-21/a-childs-obsession-with-fire-and-a-mysterious-cache-of-explosives-inside-the-palm-springs-bombing-probe https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-05-18/suicide-bomber-targeted-fertility-clinic https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/reddit-bans-anti-natalists-palm-springs-explosion-rcna207677 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/05/20/dhs-no-plans-immigrant-reality-show/83743897007/ https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/dhs-is-considering-reality-show-where-immigrants-compete-for-citizenship-47de277c https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspected-serial-killers-execution-trump-rcna207171 https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/21/middleeast/diplomats-israeli-fire-west-bank-intl https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/19/benjamin-netanyahu-israel-take-control-gaza-uk-france-canada-threaten-action https://www.patreon.com/posts/129696965?pr=true https://myanmar-now.org/en/news/a-myanmar-artist-finds-freedom-behind-bars-by-portraying-prisoners-oppression/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: What is the overview of anarchism in Mexico?
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Hey everybody, Robert Evans here, and I wanted to let you know this is a compilation episode. So every episode of the week that just happened is here in one convenient and with somewhat less ads package for you to listen to in a long stretch if you want. If you've been listening to the episodes every day this week, there's going to be nothing new here for you, but you can make your own decisions.
Hello and welcome to Ikrapen here. This may be my final episode. On Latin American anarchism, that is. We've covered Peru, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, the many countries of Central America, the former countries of Gran Colombia, and the Hispanophone islands of the Caribbean. Now we're finally getting to the big one. Mexico. I say we, because I'm here with Garrison Davis.
Hello. This is, this has been, it's gotta be like a year long series now, right?
At this point. Yeah. It's been going on for some time with breaks in between and everything.
I'm very, very excited.
Yeah. To introduce myself real quick, I'm Andrew Sage. You can find me on YouTube at Andrewism. And be sure to check out the show notes for all the references, including Angel Capaletti's Anarchism in Latin America, which was an indispensable resource for the entirety of this project. Without further ado, faminos. We have a lot to cover.
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Chapter 2: How did Plotino Reconati influence Mexican anarchism?
His work attracted young radicals, many of whom would later play key roles in the development of Mexico's labor movement. Before he started La Social, he had initiated the first Grupo de Estudiantes Socialistas, from which came figures such as Santiago Villanueva, who tried to organize the workers' movement, Hermenegildo Villavicencio, and Francisco Zaracosta, a leader of rural masses.
It's the core of this group that would help him to create La Social, which would educate and agitate but also assist workers beyond mutual aid to an active class struggle posture in defense of their interests against bosses. So basically, he took these mutual aid societies and made sure that they didn't stay mutual aid societies, that they were radicalized into resistance societies.
Because those sort of mutual aid associations were very common in Latin America at the time. You know, workers would create these little groups where they would try and support each other. But it's very easy to fall back on that and to assume, you know, that's all you have to do.
Making sure that they have a radical posture, a revolutionary posture, it's important to ensure that you're not just resting your laurels and expecting change to come to you. And indeed, they did not expect the change to come to them. In June 1865, these resistance societies supported the first industrial strike in Mexico.
Unfortunately, it was crushed by the leader of the country at the time, Emperor Maximilian, but it was his occupation and the economic harshness of it all that fomented the spread of anarchist ideas. Another student out of Rocanati's school came Julio Chavez, a precursor to the more famous Emiliano Zapata and a fervent anarchist communist.
He agitated for peasant rebellion and engaged in land expropriations, which grew in popularity wherever he was active, from the Chalco-Texoco region, where he began, to all the states of Puebla and Morelia. As Capaletti recounts, quote, the federal army finally moved against him and defeated and imprisoned he was executed in 1869 by order of President Benito Juarez.
Before he died, Chavez cried out, long live socialism, end quote. His manifesto, which was written a few months before he died, would help introduce more masses in the Mexican movement to the idea of class struggle. And like a light bulb over one's head, it immediately made it clear who was responsible for their suffering.
Santiago Villanueva and a fellow student of Orokinati named Villavicencio worked arduously to organize the artisans and workers in Mexico City. And they definitely had the cards stacked against them. But they helped to organize an industrial strike in a textile mill in 1868. And in 1869, they established the Circulo Peraltario. And in 1870, the Gran Circulo de Obreros de Mexico.
And in 1871, the newspaper El Socialista. And this is when the red and black, so famously associated with anarchism, came into the Mexican workers' movement.
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Chapter 3: What were the key events leading to the Mexican Revolution?
Like one of their sort of international political things is like, yeah, we want free Kashmir. But it's like, no, you don't. You want Kashmir to be part of Pakistan. That is not the same thing as being free. Like, let's be very clear about this. And so Pakistan's engagement towards Kashmir has always been about this, right?
It's always been about making sure that there wouldn't be any kind of sort of independent Kashmir. Yeah. And so both India and Pakistan crush the sort of secular Kashmiri independence group that have been spearheading a lot of this.
And over time, Pakistan has sort of, through a complicated series of things, has asserted a lot of control over a lot of these groups or has intelligence relations with them. ISI kind of notoriously works with militant groups.
The ISI is the group in Afghanistan that really full-on did the thing that everyone thinks that the US and the Saudis sort of did in terms of funding the worst parts of the Mujahideen. That was really mostly Pakistani intelligence. So they have a lot of relations with a bunch of people who absolutely fucking suck.
And they've, you know, sort of used a lot of these groups as, like, a way to sort of poke a stick at India and also, you know, like, attempt to obtain their sort of, like, domestic political goals of, like, weakening India for their own sort of internal stability, which we'll come back to later.
Well, the internal stability of, like, military, of the power of the military in Pakistan and also, like, taking the rest of Kashmir. Yeah. And so this has caused a really horrific conflict in which the people of Kashmir have suffered a bunch of horrible shit.
In 2019, that autonomy, you know, again, the autonomy that was the carrot in order to like join in order in exchange for Kashmir joining India. Yeah. Right. And supposedly getting this referendum like the like the carrot was supposed to be that they're supposed to have an unbelievable amount of of internal autonomy. And in 2019, it had been being eroded for a long time.
But in 2019, India is just like eat shit. Fuck you. It's gone now. Have fun. And this causes a bunch of protests. It causes militant group attacks. It causes a genuinely astonishing crackdown. I mean, they turned off the phones and the internet in Kashmir. The Indian government just did this. And it became unbelievably difficult to get any information out.
They arrested unbelievable numbers of people. There are, I mean, just absolutely horrifying accounts of the shit that Indian security forces were doing to people. You know what I mean? Like, this is a colonial occupation, right? The things that happen in a colonial occupation, they fucking torture people, they kill people, they, like, they rape people. It's really fucked.
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Chapter 4: Who were the major figures in the Mexican Revolution?
Also, I want to say I want to say imagine you are like the deck off. Oh, man.
That poor motherfucker is getting fucked. Right.
Okay, like the first one goes over, right? And then the second one goes over. And now it's happened twice, right?
And now you've probably been fired. Yeah, you're out of a job. And they put a third guy. And that first guy's kind of lucky because when the next two fall off, at least maybe that's less pressure on you. Yeah.
Like, imagine, like, you're the deck officer of the fourth one.
Yeah.
Like, Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
That's got to suck. So in about 30 days, the U.S. military had burned more than a billion dollars on this operation. Right. At which point Trump and people around him were like, oh, fuck, we can't keep this shit up. We can't maintain this tempo of operations.
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Chapter 5: What role did Ricardo Flores Magón play in the revolution?
Hey, if anyone wants to be Armand Mothbud, take it applications. You can be the good liberal. You can be it.
Oh, man, I'll take a fucking Krieger at this point. Yeah.
So I think we're going to do these episodes a little bit differently. I'm not going to do a whole synopsis for each of these episodes, since for these last three, the show has mostly eschewed plot for emotional and character beats. So instead, I want to quickly go over each of those character points, and then we can discuss those in detail.
And most of our discussion will probably be around episode 10, Make It Stop. Yep. Let's start at the beginning. Lonnie's last meeting. Ah, yeah. So the ISP double agent Lonnie Young calls Luthan to an emergency meeting to give him one final batch of intel after burning his cover. It's really shocking and worrying when we see Luthan and Lonnie meeting in public.
That already lets you know, like, oh, this is the end. Stuff is like the most jover it's ever been for Lonnie.
There's a great line that got one of the strongest reactions with the folks I was watching it with when Luthan's about to head out and he's talking with Clea and she's like, don't do this meeting. If it doesn't look perfect, we don't engage. Yeah. And Luthan responds, I think we've used up all the perfect.
I think we've used up all the perfect. Yeah.
It's this really good, there's some very impressive face acting from Skarsgård here. He's so good. There's so much he wants to say to this person, who, as we'll discuss, is essentially his daughter. But ultimately, all that happens is she says, tuck your shirt in. It's insane.
Yeah.
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Chapter 6: How did the politics of the Mexican Revolution evolve?
It's about how he's found Clea and both of them are broken by what he has done. So then he spends the rest of his life building the rebellion for Clea so that she can live on and she can beat the Empire. And that's the entire like point of him. Like that, that is what's driving him. He is like the most selfless character.
Tony in an interview said, quote, there are only a certain number of reasons that you can change your life. And one of them is just absolute self-disgust. So we found a way for him to have a belly full of it at the right moment.
Yeah, and I love that, like, that's his whole motivation ultimately is, like, undoing the only part of what he was involved in that he can undo, which is saving this person. And, like, saving this person involves destroying the thing that took her life away from her.
Yeah, the entire apparatus of the Empire. Yeah, yeah. Yep. I think we're kind of wrapped up with this episode here, but, like, the Clea Hospital, like, infiltration sequence is superb. So good. Like, one person doing all of this stuff to the absolute befuddlement of, like, the Imperial...
troopers she's really embodying the line from rogue one make 10 men feel like 100 yeah and yeah she's able to infiltrate this hospital like she's working with a team of like 10 people and it's and it's just her shout out to the granny alien in the elevator very very great little comedy moment yeah
But Leslie, do you have anything else to say about episode 10? I mean, yeah, I like this. This is obviously like my favorite episode of this particular batch.
It's maybe the best in the whole series. Like this is absolutely.
Yeah. I love the Lutheran Clea moments. I love seeing like how at the same time, this like hint when you're seeing them kind of haggle over the price of this antiquity that they've got. That like, OK, so Clea always had this this degree of like cunning and this ability to kind of like recognize what's going on with probably how she survived in the first place. Right.
She's she was always someone who saw more than other people, which she's the girl. She's the girl. Yeah. Yeah. And at the same time, you get this piece of Luthan, like there must have been like whatever he was before he joined the military. It was somebody who had this kind of deep knowledge of antiquities and probably this desire to make something of his life other than what became of it.
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Chapter 7: What is the significance of the 1917 Constitution in Mexico?
It's so funny that the thing that Cassian does at the end of Rogue One is just like a regular curving on the face. He just keeps doing this. But no, like consistently, Draven, even if he gets pissed off at Cassian, consistently has his back still, which is, I think, really, really sweet. Yes.
Yeah.
Krennic realizes how fucked they are and tries to get the entire ISB to mobilize to locate Clea as she is probably in possession of the Death Star intel. Quote, there will be no horizon to the scope of your inquiry. And this is where we have some of the most interesting stuff from Partagas and how he views rebellions and revolutions as a disease.
And this relates to some of his lines from season one, where he describes the ISB as quote-unquote, Yeah. And then when the ISP decides on what grounds they are looking to apprehend Clea, Hardegraz proclaims that, quote, she's diseased. She escaped the hospital with an infectious condition that threatens everyone with whom she may come into contact, unquote.
I'm so glad they did this because this is such a core part of the ideology of fascism, right? Of seeing the body as a nation and there being these sort of like parasitic infections that are inside the nation that are like undermining it. That's like just the core of fascism.
And you're just getting to watch like the people in the middle of the empire just literally trying to do the thing in the most literal way possible, right? Right. Like they're just they're just coming out and saying what the ideology is and how it works. And I it may be it may still be a level of metaphor that is slightly too high for the average Star Wars viewer.
But they are just telling you the politics. Yeah. And I really appreciate that.
Yeah.
Now, while stuck in an ISB holding cell, with an unbuttoned collar, Dedra is crashing out. And you can tell because the collar is unbuttoned. But somehow, she's still able to give the ISB a lead to track Clea through her use of obscure radio signals. One of the cool parts here is an Imperial radio technician is impressed at Lucin's radio setup.
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Chapter 8: How did anarchism survive in Mexico after the revolution?
She fights her way out of depression and PTSD, and she does spend years engaged in revolutionary action. And, yes, it may have been nice to see more of that revolutionary action on screen. We do see some.
It might have been nice, but this is also a limited series show with a ton of characters, like 400 speaking roles, and that has not been afforded to everybody, and that can be unfortunate, but I think I understand what's going on with this character, and And I do not think the problem is the baby itself. I think that's actually fine.
And her deciding after years of fighting to take a few years off to have a baby should be viewed as a choice that she's allowed to make, I guess.
I also think there's something, like, there's a lot of agency in the choice to, like, I'm done, but I'm not going to make that decision for this other person. For Cassian, yeah. Yeah. But, I don't know. Like, it scanned to me. I do like thinking that in this last scene, as we're, like, watching these last bits of all our characters, you know, not only, as people have pointed out, is...
Cassian going to be dead in like two days, along with Ben Mendelsohn and shortly thereafter, Grand Moff Tarkin. But like all the other stuff that's canonically going down, like right right as fucking Clea sees that first sunrise, like you have to imagine Han Solo somewhere is doing a line off of like a space prostitute. in some sleazy bar. It's like 4 a.m. in the morning where he is.
He hasn't slept in days. Luke Skywalker's looking at his aunt and uncle being like, well, they're never going to be lit on fire, obviously. Just beautiful.
To kind of reiterate on the point about how like fascism also eats its own, something that Tony has discussed before, specifically in relation to like Cyril and Deirdre and Pardigras, right? Tony says like, quote, fascism doesn't just take down the oppressed. It doesn't just come for the people it's trying to control. It inevitably destroys the people who have worked the hardest to build it.
And that's been true all through history as well. In a different interview, he says, the empire is just shattering, fragmenting, grabbing, destroying, and taking. And then the people that are doing it on the imperial side are all isolated. They think they're part of something, but really they're not. Look at what happens to Dedra. Look at what happens to Pardagraz. Look what happens to Cyril Karn.
He tries to believe in the dream. It's the carelessness and the cruelty and the lack of empathy. That's what I'm pitching. Even in this little final montage, we have this brief shot of Perrin, which is interesting. That's Mon Mothma's estranged husband, I guess. And Tony has discussed Perrin as well.
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